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RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS

  • From: John Murphy
  • Date: Mon May 14 22:34:15 2001

I stand corrected.  I checked with our service delivery department, who
actually does our SWIPs these days, and they don't do anything larger than
a /29 any more either, for the same reason that Hunter doesn't.  

My apologies for the flawed data.   


-----------------------Original Message-----------------------
>From:  Christopher A. Woodfield
>To:  Hunter Pine
>Cc:  John Murphy;Roeland Meyer;[email protected]
>Date:  5/14/01  3:38 PM
>Subject:  Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS
>
>s/larger/smaller, you mean?
>
>I actually haven't SWIPped a /30 myself - I was referring to John Murphy's 
>statement implying that he has successfully. I have SWIPped /29's, 
>however.
>
>-C
>
>On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 04:36:11PM -0400, Hunter Pine wrote:
>> ARIN returns my /30's and says I can't do netblocks larger than /29 so I
>> stopped doing /30's. Are you paying them something on the side or just
not
>> reading all the replies from them? :)
>> 
>> Hunter Pine
>> Vice President, Network Operations
>> [email protected]
>> CompuHelp Technologies
>> 11 Lispenard Street
>> New York, NY 10013
>> 212-995-2955 x21
>> http://www.compuhelp.com
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Christopher A. Woodfield" <[email protected]>
>> To: "John Murphy" <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "Roeland Meyer" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> > Yes, ARIN won't _prevent_ you from SWIPping /29s and /30s, but ARIN
>> _requires_
>> > you to SWIP any suballocation larger than a /28, and won't issue
>> > additional blocks to you if your current blocks aren't properly
SWIPped.
>> >
>> > -C
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 10:07:26PM -0500, John Murphy wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I'm sorry Roeland, but your statement about SWIP'ing anything less
than
>> a
>> > > /24 is just inaccurate.  We SWIP /29s and /30s daily, for both our
Frame
>> > > and our DSL customers.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----------------------Original Message-----------------------
>> > > From:  Roeland Meyer
>> > > To:  [email protected]
>> > > Date:  5/13/01  4:21 PM
>> > > Subject:  RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR
>> CUSTOMERS
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I've had similar problem at SpeakEasy. They still don't have a
>> reverse-DNS
>> > > clue.
>> > >
>> > > http://www.mhsc.com/recovery.htm
>> > >
>> > > None of the DSL ISPs can do larger than /27 anymore, even when
they're
>> > > ILECs. Anything less than a /24 can't be SWIP'd and if you don't
control
>> > > your in-addr.arpa entries you don't control your domain and have no
>> > > security.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > From: John Palmer (NANOG Acct) [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 1:40 PM
>> > >
>> > > > <FLAME ON>
>> > >
>> > > > PSINet dumped all of their DSL customers onto CAIS. Covad is
>> > > > the backhaul
>> > > > provider for them both. Need I say more?
>> > > >
>> > > > Bottom line, I dont know how many thousands of people were
>> > > > without service
>> > > > for more than a day because the whole transfer was botched.
>> > > >
>> > > > We have a situation where we had a DSL connection from PSI
>> > > > and were using
>> > > > our own  IP addresses. Problem is that no one changed the
>> > > > routing tables and the packets dead-ended at PSI.
>> > > >
>> > > > Getting CAIS to fix this problem has been a nightmare. At
>> > > > first, PSI didnt
>> > > > stop announcing the routes and now that they have, it seems that
>> > > > CAIS will not announce the routes till Monday becuase "no one
>> > > > at our NOC
>> > > > knows how to do this and the one guy (ONE GUY IN THE WHOLE
>> > > > COMPANY - AND THEY ARE A NATIONWIDE PROVIDER????) who knows
>> > > > how doesn't work
>> > > > weekends."
>> > >
>> > > > <flame off - sorry to the list for being so loud>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > --
>> > ---------------------------
>> > Christopher A. Woodfield [email protected]
>> >
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>
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>---------------------------
>Christopher A. Woodfield		[email protected]
>
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