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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS
Larger - ARIN refers to netblocks by subnet mask bit length. So a /30 is larger than a /29. It took me a while to figure this out myself while reading their docs. I guess whenever referring to ARIN, I use the backwards method when comparing netblocks to keep myself at least partially sane. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher A. Woodfield" <[email protected]> To: "Hunter Pine" <[email protected]> Cc: "John Murphy" <[email protected]>; "Roeland Meyer" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 4:40 PM Subject: Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS > s/larger/smaller, you mean? > > I actually haven't SWIPped a /30 myself - I was referring to John Murphy's > statement implying that he has successfully. I have SWIPped /29's, > however. > > -C > > On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 04:36:11PM -0400, Hunter Pine wrote: > > ARIN returns my /30's and says I can't do netblocks larger than /29 so I > > stopped doing /30's. Are you paying them something on the side or just not > > reading all the replies from them? :) > > > > Hunter Pine > > Vice President, Network Operations > > [email protected] > > CompuHelp Technologies > > 11 Lispenard Street > > New York, NY 10013 > > 212-995-2955 x21 > > http://www.compuhelp.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Christopher A. Woodfield" <[email protected]> > > To: "John Murphy" <[email protected]> > > Cc: "Roeland Meyer" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:39 AM > > Subject: Re: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS > > > > > > > > > > Yes, ARIN won't _prevent_ you from SWIPping /29s and /30s, but ARIN > > _requires_ > > > you to SWIP any suballocation larger than a /28, and won't issue > > > additional blocks to you if your current blocks aren't properly SWIPped. > > > > > > -C > > > > > > On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 10:07:26PM -0500, John Murphy wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm sorry Roeland, but your statement about SWIP'ing anything less than > > a > > > > /24 is just inaccurate. We SWIP /29s and /30s daily, for both our Frame > > > > and our DSL customers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----------------------Original Message----------------------- > > > > From: Roeland Meyer > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Date: 5/13/01 4:21 PM > > > > Subject: RE: To CAIS Engineers - WAKE UP AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR > > CUSTOMERS > > > > > > > > > > > > I've had similar problem at SpeakEasy. They still don't have a > > reverse-DNS > > > > clue. > > > > > > > > http://www.mhsc.com/recovery.htm > > > > > > > > None of the DSL ISPs can do larger than /27 anymore, even when they're > > > > ILECs. Anything less than a /24 can't be SWIP'd and if you don't control > > > > your in-addr.arpa entries you don't control your domain and have no > > > > security. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: John Palmer (NANOG Acct) [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 1:40 PM > > > > > > > > > <FLAME ON> > > > > > > > > > PSINet dumped all of their DSL customers onto CAIS. Covad is > > > > > the backhaul > > > > > provider for them both. Need I say more? > > > > > > > > > > Bottom line, I dont know how many thousands of people were > > > > > without service > > > > > for more than a day because the whole transfer was botched. > > > > > > > > > > We have a situation where we had a DSL connection from PSI > > > > > and were using > > > > > our own IP addresses. Problem is that no one changed the > > > > > routing tables and the packets dead-ended at PSI. > > > > > > > > > > Getting CAIS to fix this problem has been a nightmare. At > > > > > first, PSI didnt > > > > > stop announcing the routes and now that they have, it seems that > > > > > CAIS will not announce the routes till Monday becuase "no one > > > > > at our NOC > > > > > knows how to do this and the one guy (ONE GUY IN THE WHOLE > > > > > COMPANY - AND THEY ARE A NATIONWIDE PROVIDER????) who knows > > > > > how doesn't work > > > > > weekends." > > > > > > > > > <flame off - sorry to the list for being so loud> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > --------------------------- > > > Christopher A. Woodfield [email protected] > > > > > > PGP Public Key: > > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB887618B > > > > -- > --------------------------- > Christopher A. Woodfield [email protected] > > PGP Public Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB887618B
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