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Maybe you didn't realize you'd also contacted the administrators for AS7046: AS Nets then Nets now Net gain/loss AS7046 333 so low it's off the CIDR report! This may not be all your doing; I'd like to think the Internet community would have been working on it anyway, but social pressure does seem to help. Another 100,000 routes and we'll all be fine. Let me point out that the views of Messrs. Nussbacher and Huston are not incompatible. The ASNs appearing on Tony Bates's CIDR Report do seem to have made significant progress, but the Huston report at NANOG (reprised at ARIN) suggest that most growth is due to medium sized multihoming, which may not be reflected in the CIDR Report. Lee ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:58:44 +0200 From: Hank Nussbacher <[email protected]> To: Geoff Huston <[email protected]>, [email protected] Cc: Nanog mailing list <[email protected]> Subject: Re: BGP Economics ? At 09:08 08/04/01 +1000, Geoff Huston wrote: >So, if there is a belief that BGP table growth has slowed down in the >first three months of this year due to social pressure, I do not support >such a view even though the AS1221 data appears to indicate this. Its just >local issues. The AS286 view supports the view that the underlying growth >drivers are as strong as ever and the various efforts of nag mail of >network operators has been largely (and predictably) ineffectual. I decided to track how well my emails are doing. I have contacted about 25 ASNs so far based on Tony's report over ther past 3 months: AS Nets then Nets now Net gain/loss AS1221 1652 1594 -58 AS701 1581 1469 -112 AS11371 324 74 -250 AS4151 277 242 -35 AS3549 432 149 -283 AS271 280 73 -207 AS7545 196 138 -58 AS9269 162 113 -49 AS8006 146 19 -127 AS6429 218 212 -6 AS6595 163 163 0 AS13999 109 87 -22 AS4293 384 372 -12 AS8013 330 565 +235 AS4755 213 204 -9 AS1942 136 55 -81 AS1727 176 14 -162 AS9498 87 80 -7 AS6499 170 39 -131 AS5106 101 101 0 AS11170 64 28 -36 AS16758 63 63 0 AS3464 153 123 -30 AS3749 120 121 +1 AS6413 67 67 0 Withdrawn nets: 1675, added nets: 236, net reduction: 1409 nets. Now I guess some of these would have reduced their routing announcements in any event. Is this a scientific study? No. Does it show that perhaps the routing table growth can be flattened via contacting ASN admins? I believe the answer is yes. -Hank PS I have contacted AS8013 (PSA Canada) on March 6 ([email protected], [email protected]). No response and only a large growth over the past month. If anyone has better contact info than what is listed in ARIN and RADB, please feel free to let me know. >At 4/8/01 08:16 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: >>Dear Geoff; >> >> I just noticed the remarkable flattening in the recent growth of the >> BGP table >>in your BGP graphs at : >>http://www.telstra.net/ops/bgp/index.html >> >>It didn't even seem this striking at Minneapolis. >> >> >> >> Regards >> Marshall Eubanks >> >> >> Multicast Technologies, Inc. >> 10301 Democracy Lane, Suite 410 >> Fairfax, Virginia 22030 >> Phone : 703-293-9624 Fax : 703-293-9609 >> e-mail : [email protected] http://www.on-the-i.com >> >> Test your network for multicast : http://www.multicasttech.com/mt/ >
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