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> From: Adam Rothschild [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 11:44 PM > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 07:20:55PM -0800, Roeland Meyer wrote: > > ISP specific > > ...works reasonably well if you want to multihome w/ BGP, but cannot > honestly justify a provider-independent IP allocation as per registry > guidelines, assuming some level of common sense is exercised when > planning things. > > > CIDR swamps are not cool. > > Sorry I'm not an authority on what's cool in your book, but why not? Because you can't change your upstream and keep your net-block. 'tis the nature of CIDR, non? BTW, you are SERIOUSLY missing the point. Please pardon my clue-bat. > > It must be portable and routable. See, I just created a market > > differentiator. > > So, encourage the ARIN to offer micro-allocations today, and upstreams > to listen to /24 (or whatever) and shorter out of this space, if and > when it does become available. With the backing of MHSC, I'd imagine > such a task should be effortless. I was answering the point, that there was no particular advantage between one IP addr block and another. I was disproving that statement. Please learn to understand the difference between making a point and advocating a position. BTW, ARIN is perfectly willing to delegate portable /24's, they just won't do you any good because of route prefix filtering, at /20 or greater. This is one clue that you may be missing. Personally, I think there is a problem, but I'm the first one to admit that I may not have the ultimate answer. Extending prefixes to /24's may be AN answer. I wouldn't want to see it longer than that, however. That would be inefficient. Most sites that I work with are perfectly happy with a /24, but may not fit in a /25. Mind you, this does NOT include workstations. A /24 is a good sized data center. You might also catch the clue that, as folks migrate more to RAIC (Redundant Array of Inexpensive Computers) configurations, they will swallow more IP addrs. When I can get a 100 node Linux cluster to do the job of a Sun e6500, for one-tenth the cost, I'll be more than happy to burn the IP addrs. Now, try and renumber/test/redeploy that mess in a day, or even a week. > > BTW, i've been getting comments that some folks are biasing > > evaluations of some clients, based on the ip addrs of the client's > > hosts. > > Oh my. I thought all one needed to be stylin' was a low AS number. > Do tell, which IP blocks are prestigious, and which are not? Actually, investor folk look at some of that for obvious (to everyone but you) reasons. Which co-los are being used, as well as how many of them, make a big statement on robustness. However, too many locations indicate wastage of funds. It also indicates access to bandwidth and scaleability.
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