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From: "Ukyo Kuonji" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Beer and Gear (Last one by me) I thought the above subject indicated that you were indeed going to shut up about not getting free underpants. Guess Not.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ukyo Kuonji" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 11:08 AM Subject: Re: Beer and Gear surprise > > Why would someone need to buy Merit? Nanog doesn't belong to Merit, does > it? Funny, I though it was the North American Network Operators' Group. > Doesn't that imply that it collectively belongs to those of use that > consider ourselves operators? > > I don't think people are getting it. It's not about the vendorwear that was > eliminated. My point is that someone made a decision about the meeting > without even informing the people that were going to attend the meeting > beforehand. There was no discussion about it beforehand, no information > afterwards, and no mention of it when we signed up for the meeting. The > only notification that I saw was a addendum to the charter dated November > 2000 which was as long as the original charter. > > My question, I guess, is this: > > 1) What does Merit do for Nanog? > > Looks to me like they help organize the meetings (Which are funded entirely > by registration fees and vendor donations, and are supposed to be organized > by the hosting organization), host the web site (which has little content on > it) and host the mailing list. Am I missing anything else? > > 2) What gives Merit the right to make decisions about the group without > consulting the membership? > > (Hint: It's not in the charter, or anywhere else I could find) > > 3) If Merit is not listening to it's membership, and is only providing the > web page and mailing list, is there a reason why they are still hosting > NANOG? > > (Hint: It's not in the charter.) > > I would propose one of the following: > > 1) The NANOG Charter needs to be revised into a more inclusive charter > which includes the resolution of conflicts within the membership, review of > the officials actions by the membership and removal of officials by the > membership in the event that the actions are in conflict with the membership > or charter. There should also be included, in the charter, how to revise > and amend the charter. In this option, Merit would still be the ruling > body. > > 2) Remove Merit from the ruling body. There is no reason, today, that the > web site and mailing list could not be hosted by someone else. I do not > believe that Merit is doing a bad job, but there isn't that much work > involved in providing this service. The charter states that meetings are to > be organized by the hosting company. I don't see a reason why this could > not continue. The charter will still need to be resizes, however to include > the items from option 1 > > 3) Continue to live under the rule of a ruling body that does not consult > of inform it's membership or decisions that affect the membership and > meetings. > > Merit is under no obligation, at this point, to continue to offer services > to NANOG, and the membership has no recourse of action under the current > charter. > > I don't want to play politics, but I think something needs to be done. > > UK > > --- > Opinions in this email are the personal opinions of the author and are not > associated with author's employer. This email account is a not the regular > email account of the author and is being used for the protection of the > employer. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >
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