North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical RE: Using unallocated address space
At 09:47 PM 2/13/2001 -0800, Sean Donelan wrote: On Tue, 13 February 2001, "Brett L. Hawn" wrote: > Here I go being silly again, but how about people take responsability for > their own networks and filter properly at their borders? All this talk of > how to enforce things is pretty meaningless when you have countless members > of NANOG itself half-assing their own networks and complaining about other > people's. Because this is only half the answer. I always filtered my announcements, was careful to register all the address blocks I used, and was very responsible for my own network. It had no effect on someone else hijacking one of my addresses and announcing it through a large ISP's route tables. I was effectively cut off the network not because of anything I did, or could control. Worse there was little I could do to fix it. I had to wait three days for the large ISP (with whom I had no direct relationship) engineer's to decide it was worth their effort to stop the source of the false announcement. Unfortunately this is not a unique occurance. Cable&Wireless, Sprint, AT&T and UUNET have all had portions of their service knocked off the Internet for various periods of time due to bogus announcements. Until other ISPs fix their policies, I can knock your network off most of the Internet, and there is nothing you can do to prevent it. Hehe. Sprint is the worst offender, but once in a good way. Once I sunk Cyberpromo to null0 and my filters were wrong and propagated. In this case, it took Sprint 3 days to deal, but it was a good 3 days. No spam. :) In the normal sense, I hate to say it, but...shit happens. I typcially use the "Emergency NOC" list that Sean created if I need something to be fixed. Is it really taking people days to get bogon announcements fixed? -M Regards, -- Martin Hannigan [email protected] Fugawi Networks Engineering Boston, MA http://www.fugawi.net Ph: 617.742.2693 Fax: 617.742.2300
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