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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 09:32:04AM -0600, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 08:09:19PM -0500, Henry Yen wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:31:20AM -0800, Sean Donelan wrote: > > > Not to pick on Dave, since I suspect he is going to have to face > > > the Microsoft PR department for re-indoctrination for speaking out > > > of turn, I'm glad to see someone from microsoft made an appearance. > > > > out of curiosity, how do you know he's really from microsoft, > > whether unofficial or not? > > (he might be one of those LIENUX ZeAlOtS.) > > > > perhaps he might face re-indoctrination over the mail client he > > is (apparently) using, as well as the mail server software he > > is (apparently) using: > > This is getting a little stupid now, don't you think(and if you don't > think so maybe you're one of those M1CR0S0FT Z34L0TS h0h0h0h0h0)? i hope you'll note that i just tacks onto sean donelan's thread, where he states '... suspect he is going to face ...', and i added an observation prefaced with '... he might face ...'. pick on sean, not me. also: > #1) He works for microsoft. I can personally attest to that. that's fine. i've been lurking on this list for a long time and don't remember seeing much traffic from this person. that someone else will vouch for him is the correct response. > #2) He seems to want to sincerely state that: > a) microsoft acknowledges the problem > b) microsoft is working on the problem > c) microsoft isn't globally affected by this > ... even on a possibly unofficial basis. Information is good. i only partially agree. it is a fact that many things from big companies (microsoft being only yet another big company) are guesses, projections, wet dreams, and/or FUD. especially since his response contained almost no information other than a)/b)/c), above, all not particularly useful to {na}nog-ers, IMHO. and topped off with "i wish i could disclose more but i can't". perhaps better not to say anything instead of seeding suspicions or raising expectations. > #3) Just because a person may work for one Evil Empire or another > doesn't mean that they are forced to use their operating system > or MUA. I work for a company that has a mail product that a > considerable amount of people use, and I don't use it. This is > an acceptable practice at a lot of companies. it's probably not a secret that i'm not microsoft's biggest ally. nevertheless, i find it curious that you appear to be implying that you think i said he works for an evil empire. as far as mail software is concerned, your statement is factually correct, but how often does it apply to companies who make/manufacture/distribute an e-mail product (especially *their own*), as it is in this case? > #4) He is as furthest from a linux zealot as you can possibly be. obviously, i was insensitive by not adding a smiley to the following characters: LIENUX ZeAlOtS i humbly apologize. you would be advised to note that i am, as far as i can remember, one of the only 2 (or 3) people who've defended microsoft in the role of aggrieved network operator (on nanog), at least until we all find out what really happened. if we get a complete, accurate, and verifiable (inasmuch as that's possible) report from microsoft backed up with additional personal insight from [email protected], then we'll all be richer for the experience. let's see if that happens... -- Henry Yen Aegis Information Systems, Inc. Senior Systems Programmer Hicksville, New York
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