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Re: Port scanning legal
*frantically rewrites AUP's to read as follows:* 5.17 While we provide network connectivity, you must verify the host you are connecting to by using whois(1) to make sure it's not a military or government site. Use information from the whois(1) records to contact by phone the sites in question. Make sure to contact ARIN/RIPE/APNIC before querying their whois servers. Contact us before querying our DNS servers for ARIN/RIPE/APNIC hostname information. Not to step in the middle of a firefight without a waterhouse, but come on guys, this is getting absurd. On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 12:26:16PM -0800, Dan Hollis wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Roeland Meyer wrote: > > I've pinged IP addrs that I later found out were MIL addrs. Nothing > > happened. Duh! > > Cool. Care to portscan a couple .mil /16's and get back to me? > > > There are a LOT of IP addrs that aren't in the DNS. How is one to know? > > Hmm. whois perhaps? > > connecting to whois.arin.net [184.108.40.206:43] ... > HQ 7th Signal Command (NETBLK-ARMY-C) NETBLK-ARMY-C220.127.116.11 - 18.104.22.168 > INFORMATION SYSTEMS COMMAND (NET-NSMCNET) NSMCNET22.214.171.124 - 126.96.36.199 > > Naah, that makes too much sense. Can't have that now can we. > > > I don't know about you, but I flunked telepathy in High School and did > > worse in clarvoyance. > > One might argue its not the only thing you flunked. > > > Could it be, that is why ping and traceroute were invented? > > ping and traceroute are a far cry from nmap. I dont recall ping and > traceroute having a 'decoy host' option, or 'stealth' option for example, > nor any option to scan entire nets and ranges of ports. > > > The argument against port-scanning applies equally well to just about every > > diagnostic tool we use. > > Only by the most convoluted thinking. > > -Dan > -- Marius Strom <[email protected]> Professional Geek/Unix System Administrator URL: http://www.marius.org http://www.marius.org/marius.pgp 0x55DE53E4 "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a mini-van full of DLT tapes traveling down the highway at 65 miles per hour..." -Andrew Tanenbaum, "Computer Networks"