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In my opinion, "real operators" pay careful attention to the basics, such as quality of service, up-time, performance, true "end-to-end" IPv4 transport, etc. The consesus here seems to be that NANOG is a group of hobbyists with no "policy rudder" to steer them in a direction where the O implicitly stands for "Real Operator". The Real Operators that I know have told me that NANOG no longer cares, in other words, it is not like the old days. I guess this is what happens when "operators" can not agree on how to process the first 20 bytes in a packet header, in a consistent manner, without breaking things after the fact. Jim Fleming http://www.unir.com/images/architech.gif http://www.unir.com/images/address.gif http://www.unir.com/images/headers.gif http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/sdks/platform/tpipv6/start.asp ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Bush <[email protected]> To: John Leong <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]>; Shankar Narayanaswamy (E-mail) <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 1:35 PM Subject: Re: Out of band monitoring of equipment > > > Curious if any operator uses, or have interest in using, out of band > > network (e.g. modem, wireless etc.) for remote equipment (routers, > > switches, HVAC etc.) monitoring over and above doing it in band on the > > Internet. > > excuse the double negative, but i doubt that any real operator doesn't > > randy > >
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