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Re: DDOS attacks lately?

  • From: Mikael Abrahamsson
  • Date: Sun Aug 20 10:42:45 2000

On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Dan Hollis wrote:

> The civilian authorities dont see it as a big enough problem to bother
> going after the military to shut down their smurf amps and shut down their
> rooted boxes.

My suggesion was that this would change. The military is interconnected to
others at certain points. If they would tear down these connections then
perhaps they would wake up?
> And remember, McDonalds has *deep* pockets. How deep are yours?

Uncle Sam got to the tobacco industry. Nuf said.
> What about russian or chinese or (insert unfriendly country here) networks?
> Go ahead and sue them. Fine them into the stratosphere. Theyre *not* going
> to pay up, and they certainly arent going to change their complacent or
> negligent behaviour.

Trade sanctions. Filtering. Same thing, different name.
> IMHO, its going to have to end up being stuff like a BGP death penalty on
> recalcitrant networks. Shut them off entirely from the net until they
> start playing by the rules.

This involves some kind of authority to make those decisions. The
MAPS/ORBS dispute shows it has to be done somewhat officially.

My major point is that we have to do something about the tool they use,
not going after why they use it. Taking away reasons to flood wont work,
we have to take away (or limit) their ability to do so.

Mikael Abrahamsson    email: [email protected]