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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical RE: surge in spam email (fwd)
> Greg A. Woods > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 3:57 PM > Ah, but you don't have to harass every open relay -- just > enough to get > the message across (and in the mean time to keep the spammers at bay). > The problem with leaving the teeth out of a system like ORBS is that > it's like preaching to the choir -- you never get your > message across to > the people who can actually do something about the situation. The problem is ORBS black-holing Telstra/Optus. This effectively black-holes OZ and NZ, in their entirety. At that point, ORBS credibility is toasted with me. I have also put three major clients with AboveNet. ORBS's blackhole there, didn't sit well with me either. BTW, the current client is both in AboveNet and does traffic with OZ. ORBS has used up so many credibility points with me that I am now recommending against any affiliation with ORBS, in any way, shape, or means, whatsoever. Amazingly, our client's connectivity to OZ is now improving. We might even revive this customer. We are also planning to place assets, in OZ, and can't afford to have it disconnected from our SJO data center. I'm not a spam fan, but ORBS is completely out of control and renegade now. I can't condone such irresponsible behaviour. I am routing around the problem. If they had only blocked selected subnets, that I can understand. But to block an entire country, for the sins of a few, is irresponsible. I have now endured two revenue hits because of ORBS ... there won't be a third ... I can't afford it. The trust is broken and won't be restored. BTW, I am revisiting the RBL as well, however, they do seem a bit more responsible over there. --- R O E L A N D M . J . M E Y E R CEO, Morgan Hill Software Company, Inc. Managing Architect Tel: (925)373-3954 Fax: (925)373-9781 http://staff.mhsc.com/rmeyer
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