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Re: Telco NOC vs. Internet NOCs (WAS: Wanted: Clueful Individual @ TeleGlobe.net

  • From: Robert Cannon
  • Date: Tue Jul 18 12:15:44 2000

I am curious how often you think that ATT telephone long distance would hand
traffic off to MCI telephone long distance.  My impression of telephone long
distance is that it is largely an end to end service (one of the great
differences from the Internet).  That as far as long distance goes, there is
not a great deal traffic hand off (one exception is times of network trouble
where carriers have agreements to hand off traffic to maintain network
reliability).

Also sprach Patrick W. Gilmore
>The telco world is completely different.  *EVERY* call has an
>"origination" and a "termination", and *EVERY* termination is *PAID*.

Example 1:
User A goes off hook to call user B who is in another state.  User A's local
carrier is Bell South.  Long distance is Qwest.  User's B local carrier is
PAcBell.  User A pays a bill to Bell South and Qwest.  Qwest pays an
origination and termination access fee to Bell South and PacBell.  User B
pays PacBell.  So there are flat rate charges on local networks, and metered
origination and termination fees on the long distance network.

Example 2:
User A goes online to "webphone" and using A's webbrowswer calls User B. 
User's A Net access is not over the Public Telephone Network.  "Webphone" is
a free service in affiliation with GTE.  User B subscribes to PacBell.  User
A pays a flat rate bill to its Net access provider; user A pays not long
distance fee.  GTE could act as a CLEC or a long distance company.  If it
acts as a long distance company IXC then GTE pays a termination access
charge but NO origination access charge!  User B pays a bill to pacbell.

Example 3:
User A calls User B 100% over the net and there are no telco charges.

Example 4:
User A calls User B.  Both are on the Sprint Wireless network.  Both pay
flat rate charges to Sprint for 300 minutes of time.  Since the entire call
is on network, there are no access charges and reciprocal compensation.

If at one end there are two local networks passing traffic, then the local
networks must pay a metered reciprocal compensation charge.

There are also universal service fees involved.

Point:  You cannot say "every" call has certain fees.  The telephone network
gets more diverse by the moment.

If there is a trouble with the service in the pacbell network, what exactly
do you want bell south to do about it?  I guess I an not sure I understand.

Finally, dont hestitate to drop essentially an email to the FCC letting them
know trouble that you are having with your service.
http://www.fcc.gov/eb/tcd/complaints.html

Thanks

Robert Cannon
Internet Telecom Project
www.cybertelecom.org


------Original Message------
From: Jeff Mcadams <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: July 18, 2000 12:27:11 PM GMT
Subject: Re: Telco NOC vs. Internet NOCs (WAS: Wanted: Clueful Individual @
TeleGlobe.net



Also sprach Patrick W. Gilmore
>The telco world is completely different.  *EVERY* call has an
>"origination" and a "termination", and *EVERY* termination is *PAID*.


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