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RE: RFC 1918

  • From: Jamie Rishaw
  • Date: Fri Jul 14 17:53:53 2000


| I claim rather that most routers _never_ have an operational need
| to talk directly to random strangers, i.e. to have their interface
| addresses leak. So sure, honor RFC 1918 strictly and utterly and to
| the letter: put egress filters for the addrs that would guarantee
| that anyone who tried to traceroute through you would see timeouts
| as the replies were blocked. If that makes whingers happier, groove
| on it. If your router doesn't have any different-MTU interfaces that
| it routes between, then there's no harm in using RFC 1918 addresses
| on the endpoints of inter-router links.


 	Exactly.

	I think Vix settled that a few years back when we had this
discussion (I dont remember specifically, but I remember occasions when he
chimes in, he's usually the closing argument) :-)

	- RFC1918 addressing on *endpoint* or leaf links, is fine.

	- RFC1918 addressing on transit links, isn't the best idea, but
except for PMTUD (which arguably shouldn't even be, um, an argument) holds
no technical reasoning(correct me if i'm wrong) to abstain.

	My biggest complaint is that RFC1918 addresses for the most part
don't have in-addr (and if they do, it's generic) and debugging a problem
based on just an IP address is hard when you're talking to cluebies at
someone else's NOC.  While I'm not suggesting that in-addr be created for
RFC1918 specific to each provider's arbitrary allocation of IPs (this would
defeat a lot of 1918) I do think that, in a global or public/enterprise
network, 1918 addressing on a transit link is just a bad idea.

	OARnet is doing it for "security" last I talked to them (which was
several years ago), they've been using RFC1918 on transit links for a while
now, CIP ohio-dmz.net.

-jamie