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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks?
On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote: > > Sabri Berisha: Sunday, July 09, 2000 8:27 AM > > I can understand your grief. However, I expect you to have > > the same commen > > sense most of us have and you will probably know who to blame > > for this. Do > > you wish to blame the spammers or the volunteers who fight > > spam? > > Now that you mention it, yes I do. Spammers don't block access. > The RBL, which my systems subscribe to, only lists systems that > are PROVEN to originate or relay spam. ORBS simply is on the > "close all relays" jihad even if the system never saw spam. It is not about a war against open relays. It's about giving a network admin the *choice* to accept mail from open relays. > This > is very Napoleanic, not something that I can condone. Also, as I > said, there are valid reasons to allow third-party relays. Allowing third-party relays may affect more than your own users... > If you don't see requireing internal confidential email to go > through an untrusted IAP mail hub as a security issue then we > have nothing more to talk about. Ever heared of pgp? > > You can find the criteria on http://www.orbs.org > > The criteria is arguable, but more importantly, where is the > oversight? What do you mean by oversight? > > You are free to come with a proposal? > > How about setting up a REAL organization for once, rather than > these ad hoc hanging committees? You know, incorporate a > non-profit, feed it $$$ and watch it grow? Require membership > approval, oversight, etc.? You know, legitimate operations. Like I said; come with a proposal and we can all see if we can agree on it? -- Sabri Berisha
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