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At Friday 04:28 AM 7/7/00, Joe Shaw wrote: >UUNet's abuse department used to be the same way, especially during the >weekend. If you wanted to annoy the piss out of a UUNet dedicated line >customer, the weekend was the time to do it. I don't know if that's >changed now. Winds are shifting. One of the original spam floods that trigggered the creation of SpamShield, was from an Alternet dialup, and it took them a mere 10 minutes to shut that account off. That must have been a different department at the time: Try being on the receiving end of a spoofed/randomized SYN/anything flood that doesn't exceed, say: 1Mbps and doesn't load UUnet's network so much. They won't even lift a damn finger and TRY to trace this back, supposedly because they can't trace it back through their ATM PVCs (an argument that has been backed up by other people I spoke to). They will happily charge you for the traffic though. A network design that doesn't allow tracing back spoofed traffic? Way to go, UUnet. And yes, I remember CenterTrack: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-9910/robert.html , it just wasn't in production at the time - and I have no idea if it was ever deployed successfully. Now, lets watch Vijay rush to the defense of his, uhm, stock options.
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