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RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks?

  • From: Karyn Ulriksen
  • Date: Thu Jul 06 21:50:54 2000 
Christian,

   They are one of my DS3 providers and I have been doing business with them
for the past four years.  Their NOC staff is great and their customer
service has made great strides over the past year (since I no longer have to
beg, plead, and grovel to get things done).  But I have had problems with
their abuse department being (non)responsive.  You would think that pulling
a full DS3 and several T1's (and potentially pulling more from them) would
give me a leg to stand on with them!  I don't think that I have ever
received even acknowledgement on emails sent to abuse, I end up going
through my own channels in Exodus to get anything close to a remedy.

Karyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Nielsen [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 4:09 PM
To: Karyn Ulriksen
Subject: RE: RBL-type BGP service for known rogue networks? 


On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Karyn Ulriksen wrote:

> 
> Q. Yeah, but do we really want to black hole Exodus?? :) 
> A. Ok, Yeah, we really do... but can we get away with it?!! :) :)

um, why would you say that about exodus? you seem to buy from them

route-server.exodus.net>trace publichost.com

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to publichost.com (216.34.231.43)

  1 dcr03-p0-2.sntc02.exodus.net (209.1.169.178) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
  2 bbr02-g3-0.sntc02.exodus.net (216.33.154.100) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
  3 bbr02-p5-0.sntc03.exodus.net (209.185.249.146) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
  4 bbr02-p5-0.irvn01.exodus.net (216.32.173.206) 12 msec 12 msec 8 msec
  5 dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net (216.33.164.3) 12 msec 12 msec 8 msec
  6 acr02-p5-1-0.irvn01.exodus.net (216.33.164.74) 12 msec 12 msec 8 msec
  7 209.67.157.214 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec
  8 gateway-04090.sitestream.net (64.7.192.1) [AS 13890] 16 msec 12 msec 12
msec
  9 publichost.com (216.34.231.43) [AS 13890] 12 msec 16 msec 12 msec
route-server.exodus.net>sho ip bgp reg 13890
BGP table version is 23783371, local router ID is 209.1.220.234
Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i -
internal
Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete

   Network          Next Hop            Metric LocPrf Weight Path
*>i64.7.192.0/20    209.67.157.214               1000      0 13890 i
* i                 209.67.157.214               1000      0 13890 i
*>i208.48.184.0     209.67.157.214               1000      0 13890 i
* i                 209.67.157.214               1000      0 13890 i
*>i216.34.230.0/23  209.67.157.214               1000      0 13890 i
* i                 209.67.157.214               1000      0 13890 i