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RE: Alternatives (was Re: whois broke again?)

  • From: Roeland M.J. Meyer
  • Date: Tue Feb 22 11:05:59 2000

> From: [email protected]
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> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 6:47 AM
> >
> > > [email protected]
> > > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 5:11 PM
> >
> > > > While I think that Bill Manning's DNS TXT suggestion is clever, and
> > > > nicely distributed, it requires a lot of effort.
> > >
> > > 	actually, I think both efforts have about the same level
> > > 	of effort.  In one case, its concentrated in a single place,
> > > 	in the other, its all over the place.
> >
> > The nice thing about central is that things will get done, or not done,
> > consistantly. You tend to strike a closure point at some time. In the
> > distributed "all over the place" model, things may never be
> consistent, nor
> > will they ever be complete. It is also difficult to enforce quality
> > standards.
> >
>
> 	Hum, is this an argument for reconsituting "Ma Bell"?

No it isn't, you mistake my intentions. I was just weighing out each end of
the spectrum.

> 	One of the strengths of the Internet is its distributed nature.

Tell that to DOC/NTIA/ICANN. I'm with Stef and the ORSC in this, aka; the
opposition (see: www.dnso.net).

> 	And the trend is in this direction with the addition of new
> 	IP aware products (cell phones, networked "gadgets", et.al.)
> 	Trying to retain a centralized structure is (IMHO) doomed to
> 	failure.  Its better to have broadly available standards that
> 	can be enforced at the provider/subscriber boundary and then
> 	let the market "bloom" rather than have a single forcing function
> 	that everything must run through before proper operations can
> 	occur.

Finding that sweet-spot has been elusive.

> 	We might as well argue for the reconstitution of the InterNIC
> 	and the abolishment of RIPE, APNIC, ARIN. You'll get "things ...
> 	done, or not done consistantly." and will "strike a closure point
> 	at some time".

Actually, RIPE/APINIC/ARIN is too centralized for my taste. <grin>

> 	Striking the balance is hard but I expect that the trend is away
> 	from centralized services.

Not according to DOC/NTIA/ICANN <sigh>.