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Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS

  • From: Henry R. Linneweh
  • Date: Fri Jan 14 14:28:22 2000

This is really simple to understand, here we have a service that actually aids
you by informing you of an open relay problem being exploited on your network
and when people rise above their apathy and eliteness and are grateful that
someone actually is working on aiding self regulation.

To me A network supporting open relays to the outside world is screwing
the end user who is the paying customer.

Most people that I have informed did not even realize this was happening on
their network and were grateful when I pointed out the problem to them, I
was really surprised at the responses.

Shawn McMahon wrote:

> If they can't test you, they rub two neurons together and test you from
> another address.
> Perhaps you should read their FAQ before asking questions about their service.
> The only way you can prevent them from having any means of testing you is:
> Close your relay.
> Now, you can fool their automatic tests; but somebody will turn you in and
> they'll do a manual.  It's harder to get removed from a manual, because
> they don't do automatic update testing on them.
> All of this is answered in their FAQ.
> At 06:43 PM 1/13/2000 -0600, you wrote:
> >If ORBS can't test you, how do you propose they determine if you're an
> >open relay? Take your word for it? Accept a piece of spam from someone who
> >says they received it which has your SMTP server's headers in it (which
> >could just as well have been forged)?
> >
> >Their answer was that if they can't test you, they have to assume you're
> >operating open relays. I'd love to hear your thoughtful answer to the
> >problem.

Thank you;
| Thinking is a learned process so is UNIX   |
Henry R. Linneweh