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> > If you're running an attractive nuisance, it's simply a matter of time > until someone -does- find you. If this time is _10_ years (which is not too bad assumption_) - why not? let the people do their work instead of fighting with the shadows. > > ORBS is simply being proactive about it, on advisement from people around > the Internet. > > > What ORBS is doing is like some man who is walking by the street and, > > if you forgot to close your car, break the ignition locks and write > > message _dear sir; you did not closed your car, and it could be stolen > > or used for the crime; to prevent it, I broke your car - now bad guys > > could not abuse it for their dark purposes_. Guess when this man > > finish his work? > > ORBS is NOT damaging your car, your network, or your ability to provide > service. ORBS is merely letting you know that you left your car parked > without the emergency brake on, and that it might roll down the hill and > run over someone when you're not looking. And it's letting people who > might be in the area know too. Yes, this means that someone might give > your car a quick shove down the hill. But it also means people can get out > of the way first. Aren't analogies fun? > > ORBS is simply investigating and reporting mail servers which are provable > open relays, and netblocks which are unverifiable due to administrative > choice (either requesting addition to the listing, or by blocking the > testers). It's making use of information that is easily obtainable, on the > suggestion from someone who has probably already checked that you might be > a good choice to investigate (meaning someone has already noticed you, and > you're not hidden from view anymore). > > I get regular ORBS probes, and I welcome them. As long as my service is > not directly impacted by those probes (ie. they start bogging down my > systems with tests, or consume a noticable chunk of bandwidth), I'll > continue to do so. > > > Just the same ORBS. It's your concern to have open relay as long as it > > does not bother others. > > And it's my prerogative to not listen to your mail server if I believe it > is being operated negligently, if I don't believe your mail is RFC > conformant, or if it's tea time. *shrug* ORBS helps me in making my > decision with the first part. I decide if it's tea time by myself. :-) > > -- > Edward S. Marshall <[email protected]> http://www.xnet.com/~emarshal/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > [ Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. ] > > Aleksei Roudnev, (+1 415) 585-3489 /San Francisco CA/
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