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Re: spam colusion

  • From: I Am Not An Isp
  • Date: Mon Jan 10 00:31:46 2000

At 05:00 PM 1/9/00 -0500, Dean Anderson wrote:

>We do ignore them. They are pretty ineffective at causing any mail problems
>for us. Which is another good reason not to use them. However, they enable
>spammers to find relays. Particularly annoying to me is they enable
>spammers to find our relay. When ORBS was blocked from 11/24 to 12/15, our
>relay troubles stopped. Spammers can't relay without a list of relays.
>ORBS provides that list.

Why don't you go after They have an open relay list and I thought they wanted to make new law. (Someone from is welcome to correct me if my impression is incorrect.) That way at least both parties are willing participants in the litigation.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a big fan of ORBS and do not use it. But I would hate to see what happens if lists of publicly available information is judged illegal.

I wonder if search engines can be sued for listing sites they found through web crawling? I can just claim I do not want to password protect my sensitive information and now that people are finding the page in a search engine they are downloading said sensitive information without my approval. So it MUST be the search engine's fault, or better yet, their upstream's fault. I mean, they had to do an HTTP-get to find the information, isn't that intrusion upon my property?

Can't wait to see how this pans out. And, yes, Dean, I am hoping that you lose and lose so badly no one tries it again.

> --Dean


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