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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion
Anyway it's better do not touch this heap of troubles named ORBS. Those who wanted did protected themself by filtering them out; if you open some kind of lawsuite it force them to change the provider, not more - and cause sysadmins to protect themselves once more... Don't trouble troubles and troubles don't trouble you -:). I do not want discuss if ORBS is good or bad - it EXIST. On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, William Allen Simpson wrote: > Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 23:02:47 -0500 > From: William Allen Simpson <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion > > > Dean Anderson wrote: > > > > I would like to get your opinions on this. > > > My opinion is that you should sue them vigorously -- and lose. This > would help the rest of us immensely by providing a solid precedent for > common carrier liability regarding the activities of our subscribers. > > My technical evaluation is that you were discovered to be operating an > open relay, you have been notified that you are operating an open relay, > and have failed to secure your open relay. Thus, through your own > deliberate action, the publication that you operate an open relay > constitutes an invitation to use the open relay. Your failure to > enforce secure authorization practices is negligent, and you have > failed to abate a public nuisance. > > Whether your threat to encourage illegal penetration of another's system > is criminal should be brought to the proper authorities for evaluation. > > I'm sure that many of us would be happy to testify on behalf of Netgate. > > [email protected] > Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32 > > Aleksei Roudnev, (+1 415) 585-3489 /San Francisco CA/
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