|
North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion
[ On Friday, January 7, 2000 at 21:55:16 (-0500), Dean Anderson wrote: ] > Subject: Netgate.net.nz/ORBS spam colusion > > So I'd like to propose the possibility that we should start probing New > Zealand sites with SATAN, and publish site vulnerabilities on a web page, > just like ORBS does. We would then deny responsibility for any resulting > attacks on those sites by "script kiddies". Just like ORBS does. Unless you can show how the supposed vulnerabilities of those sites are directly affecting millions of users worldwide in the same way as UCE forwarded through open relays is you will not be doing anything at all like what ORBS does. Indeed the "script kiddies" are learning to emply distributed attacks of sorts, but most used to date require lots of bandwidth between the compromised systems and the victims, not necessarily just an available set of vulnerable systems from which to launch their attacks. I doubt New Zealand is an ideal site matching their needs. Meanwhile ORBS is winning the fight against open-relay spam, slowly but surely. Why don't you just hire somone capable of fixing your own open relays and sign yourself off for six months vacation at some site of your choosing where there's no internet access possible, and quit bugging people who are genuinely interested in bettering the state of the Internet. -- Greg A. Woods +1 416 218-0098 VE3TCP <[email protected]> <robohack!woods> Planix, Inc. <[email protected]>; Secrets of the Weird <[email protected]>
|