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Re: ORBS block

  • From: Alex Kamantauskas
  • Date: Fri Dec 17 16:44:15 1999

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Greg A. Woods wrote:

> 
> [ On Friday, December 17, 1999 at 08:49:17 (-0800), Tim Wolfe wrote: ]
> > Subject: Re: ORBS block
> >
> > If Provider X wants to listen to Dean's loony conspiracy theories and block
> > ORBS from going through their network, how is that thef of service?  That
> > would only be true if ORBS pays Provider X for some type of service and then
> > they could fall back to whatever options (arbitration, etc) that their
> > contract allows.
> 
> It's simple:  I find ORBS a valuable service, both for ensuring my own
> mail servers are secure, as well as for telling me about the issues with
> my neighbours servers, as well as all the rest around the world.  If my
> provider, or an upstream provider from them, were blocking ORBS, even
> just their inbound tests, then they would be stealing a service I value.
> 
> ORBS is not doing anything whatsoever to affect the network layer and
> network operators and providers should not even see them on their
> horizon.
> 
> If e-mail operators are having some kind of trouble with ORBS then
> that's a different issue, but *not* one that requires network-level
> intervention, especially not upstream from *anyone*.
> 
> It is most important that people not confuse these issues.  ORBS is not
> a network thing -- it only affects a single service.
> 
> -- 
> 							Greg A. Woods
> 
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> 

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Alex Kamantauskas
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