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[ On Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 11:56:56 (-0500), Dean Anderson wrote: ] > Subject: Re: ARIN whois > There you go posting private e-mail to the list again. Please don't do that! If you can't figure out how to run you're mailer properly then perhaps you shouldn't be using it. (Maybe I should have guessed at your mailer skills when I saw how your text wasn't nicely formatted....) > I'm all for working with the community. Each time I have, it has > turned out that we need to operate relays. That's a pretty damn poor service you're "offering" to the community then. Dis-service, more like.... As someone else has already tried to explain, mail relays never have to be "open relays". > Possibly, SMTP AUTH will make unauthenticated relaying > unnecessary. I'm still looking into how widely deployed it is on email > clients. Possibly -- if *you* can figure out how to do it! > Its the foolish people who ASSUME that all of the internet is composed > of cable modems and the company email server, and the internal company > modem bank, all behind a firewall and a VPN who think we don't need to > operate relays. > > Try to take relaying out of sendmail, and see what happens. Been there -- done that (well, with smail, not sendmail, but what the heck) -- on to more interesting challenges. > I'm just foolish enough to tell the junior antispammer league that > relaying has a legitimate purpose, and can't be removed. Most other > people aren't willing to waste the time with them. I was also foolish > enough to think they could think something through without resorting > to abusing our servers, and making posts to alt.2600. Yep. I know > when I did something wrong. Given your propensity for claiming you're going to make a profit from prosecuting the so-called "offenders", perhaps we should surmise that your true "legitimate business purpose" is to do just that. -- Greg A. Woods +1 416 218-0098 VE3TCP <[email protected]> <robohack!woods> Planix, Inc. <[email protected]>; Secrets of the Weird <[email protected]>
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