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We're up to 80K and rising. 2 big ones. Some smaller ones over 5K. Most the rest are under $500. Unless we can pin them to one or a small group of people. Then all their attacks are summed. A number of small attacks over a short period can then be criminal. This amount interests both lawyers and collections companies. --Dean Around 04:07 PM 11/22/1999 -0600, rumor has it that Joe Shaw said: > >What "legitimate business purposes" necessitate leaving SMTP relays open >to the world? While I think spammers shouldn't be spamming, I think >you'd find it better to do what you can to stop them from spamming via >means you control, i.e. your servers, as opposed to going through the >FBI. > >The FBI has recently stated that their computer crimes people are entirely >overworked and way behind. So, while they will look into the matter, my >previous experience with the FBI and computer crime shows a decided lack >of interest in crimes that don't involve a high dollar figure for damages >or stolen goods/services except for the purposes of profiling attacks and >doing trend analysis. Unless you're looking at a six figure loss, you >probably won't get far. > >Your best bet is to find a solution to restrict access to your relays. > >-- >Joseph W. Shaw - [email protected] >Free UNIX advocate - "I hack, therefore I am." > >On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Dean Anderson wrote: > >> >> These are coming from Mass, Cleveland, Ohio, and Virginia. >> >> We use our relays for legitimate business purposes. They are not "accidentally left open". >> >> --Dean > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Plain Aviation, Inc [email protected] LAN/WAN/UNIX/NT/TCPIP http://www.av8.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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