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Re: ARIN whois

  • From: Dean Anderson
  • Date: Mon Nov 22 14:23:52 1999

Gee. We operated relay services for almost 4 years with only one incident before this summer.  Since the antispammers started inciting attacks, we've been attacked more than 2 dozen times since July.  Coincidence?  I think not.

Also, there aren't very many _real spams_ in the attacks. The attacks are spamlike, but generally not spam.  But the content of the messages doesn't matter. I don't care if its spam or not spam. Services rendered are worth money.  We are entitled to collect the money regardless of the purpose of the relayed messages. If the money exceeds $5000, the unauthorized access becomes criminal. We complain to FBI. The "relayer" will be found. And we are still entitled to the money for the services provided.

		--Dean

Around 10:16 PM 11/21/1999 -0700, rumor has it that Forrest W. Christian said:
>
>On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Kai Schlichting wrote:
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>> THEY WILL FIND YOUR RELAYS ON THEIR OWN, AND THEY WILL ABUSE THEM, NO
>> MATTER HOW LOUD YOU SCREAM.
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>In transition to a new mail server (with a new address), I installed a
>plug-gateway on the old server to redirect mail.
>
>Unfortunately, plugd hides the ip address of the sender, and since I trust
>my netblocks, all of the ip addresses on the old server became "spam relay
>entry points".
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>It took the spammers 96 hours to find 3 of the addresses on that box and
>for us to be listed in orbs.  I figured I would have at least had a week
>or two to figure out a better way.
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>I ended up staying up all night getting transparent proxying to work right
>on the new server and making it work with a cisco route-map.
>
>- Forrest W. Christian ([email protected]) KD7EHZ
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