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Re: identify hostname

  • From: Roeland M.J. Meyer
  • Date: Thu Dec 03 19:48:04 1998

That won't work for them because you are using the same data to build
filters. In fact, you can do it in a script, automate the whole thing..

At 06:29 PM 12/3/98 -0500, Jonathan Mischo wrote:
>this makes sense...until someone gets lazy, and takes a week to filter,
>and the smurf brats catch on, and start querying DNS to find amplifiers.
>
>-Taz
>
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>On Thu, 3 Dec 1998, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
>
>> At 11:32 AM 12/2/98 -0700, Pete Kruckenberg wrote:
>> >> I do have an access list deny for incoming destinations to *.*.*.255
>> >> since I do know that the only customer we have with larger than a /24
>> >> from us (via cw.net) also happens to have nothing larger than /26 in
>> >> their network.  AFAIK, today, smurfers are only using *.*.*.255.  They
>> >> would have to track a lot more information to use others, so for now I
>> >> can generally expect that deny to prevent us from being an amplifier. 
>> >
>> >It's not difficult to find subnet broadcast addresses, since few routers
>> >(if they even support it) are configured to filter ICMP replies. If there
>> >isn't already software out there, it will take all of a few hours to add
>> >broadcast-finding code to the smurfing software in existence.
>> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> Why not make your down-stream fill out a *complete* IN-ADDR.ARPA file which
>> lists their sub-net bcast and base addresses? That way yo could use the DNS
>> system itself to find those addresses.
>> ___________________________________________________ 
>> Roeland M.J. Meyer, ISOC (InterNIC RM993) 
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>> 
>

___________________________________________________ 
Roeland M.J. Meyer, ISOC (InterNIC RM993) 
e-mail: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Internet phone: hawk.mhsc.com
Personal web pages: staff<http://www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer>.mhsc.com/~rmeyer
Company web-site: <http://www.mhsc.com/>www.mhsc.com
___________________________________________________ 
Who is John Galt?
"Atlas Shrugged" - Ayn Rand