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RE: Digital Bill of Rights

  • From: Bob Allisat
  • Date: Fri Nov 20 15:41:23 1998

 James, I feel it is important to
 reply to your reasoned article with
 an equal response. Mr. Fowler wrote:
>         [Fowler, James]  Bob, Yes you do have the right to e-mail 
> anyone you want.  I can refuse e-mail from anyone I want.  This is 
> the same for the US postal service. If I choose not to accept 
> e-mail from you, then you don't get a real say in the matter.  The 
> RBL is a voluntary list. i.e. your network is used for Spam, one 
> can not get off of your Spam list, they document what they have 
> done, then add your address to the RBL.  it is punishment for you 
> not respecting the rights and requests of others not to send Spam, 
> so we (RBL Users) have a right not to accept Spam.   This is NOT 
> envelope steaming, this is looking at the address from who it was 
> sent from and then stopping the e-mail from going further.
> 
>         It is MY company's network, My company's storage system, 
> My company's connection, My company's money paid for all of this.  
> My company CAN choose who we want to use our services.
> 
>         Your attitude, "Welcome to the digital age. Here is 2000 
> pieces of Spam for you.  Thanks for the use of your bandwidth and 
> storage."  This is not right.  It would be like someone going to 
> your house, walking in, going to you fridge, getting a drink, and 
> using your phone and watching your TV, without your permission.  
> Is this what you really want?  This list is a group of people who 
> have wasted too many hours in trying to get people like you to 
> listen and please stop the spamming, but it takes a discussion / 
> Flame mail to do this. Why?

 Mail is mail is mail in my opinion. 
 And what you do on a *private* server
 is your own business. Once that server
 opens for general public usage the
 obligation is to simply deliver the
 god-damned mail. Not snif or steam or
 read the addresses to see if they are
 kosher. We have our rights and freedoms
 in a civil society. One day they will
 be integrated into our laws and various
 constitutions. Until then I guess 
 Public ISPs will continue to get away
 with abuses.

 In my opinion all this RBL nonsense is
 vastly more destructive in the long
 term than a few ad e-mails. You may
 agree to disagree. That too is your
 right. However you still may not block,
 manipulate or deny any mail directed at
 me. *UNLESS* I explicitly give you that
 permission. Otherwise - buzz of boys.
 You're treading on dangerous ground.

 Bob Allisat

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