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Bob, let me explain a couple of things to you that you
seem to not grasp!
1. As the owner of an ISP, the equipment is mine, the
network connections are mine, and the right of
data to pass through that equipment is mine to
control. Its called private property.
2. As a business I have the authority to tell my employee's
what they can and can't do AT WORK. For example, I
can say that we do not allow the reading of Playboy
magazines on company time or property. This is
perfectly legal. Yes I am censoring my employee from
reading a publication.
3. If the USG was telling us internet providers to
block or filter email that contained the word
BOBO, then that would (or could) be considered
a violation of certain freedoms. The RBL is
not a government agency. Read the FAQ
4. The MAPS RBL project is an OPT-IN program.
Mail server operators that wish to make use
of those services do so of their own free will.
5. How they communicate that to their users (customers)
is completely a private matter between them and
their users (customers).
6. We tell all of our customers that we subscribe to the
MAPS RBL project and as such mail from certain sites
may be blocked. Our customers *love* this feature
and it is part of the reason the select us as a provider.
In closing Mr. Allisat, your statements that the MAPS RBL
project is intercepting private Email and is manipulating the
free flow of email is false. Though is sounds true to those
that lack clue, it is false. The statement that a "technician"
is making the decision is also patently false. If you took
the time to properly research the FAQ's, the site, etc. you would
know that an officer of the company must sign a document in order
to use the service, that is to receive a feed. In addition for
those that are passively using the service (via DNS lookups)
I am quite sure they have the approval of management. If they
don't and management doesn't support the choice, then it would
be reversed.
What we are protecting, and what is our right to protect, is
theft of service.
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At 01:55 AM 2/7/36 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Derek writes:
>> There are plenty of people, who are HAPPY to have Paul's RBL (I
>> recently subscribed last night finally, thank you Paul!) around to
>> lighten the workloads of our servers, and to lessen the mailspools
>> of our customers.
>
> The simple point is you or any
> other technician has no ability
> or right to imagine themselves
> representing or in any way inter-
> fering with their customers mail.
> You are acting as if you have any
> right to intercept any private
> e-mail. You have no such right.
> In manipulating the free flow
> of electronic mail you are
> infringing with fundamentaly
> human rigts and freedoms.
>
> Bob Allisat
>
> Free Community Network _ [email protected] . http://fcn.net
> http://fcn.net/allisat _ http://fcn.net/draft
>
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