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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users
At 08:26 AM 11/19/98 -0800, Sean Finn wrote: >At 11:39 PM 11/18/98 -0800, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote: >>That's right. It stops the practice of using a sacrificial account, from >>AOL or netcom, to spam for a web-site that is otherwise protected. Does it >>make a difference that they didn't spam from their own ISP? > >Please allow me a moment to ask: > >Does it make any difference whether your customer actually originated the >offending msgs? > >Couldn't such a spamset come from one of their competitor? > >Or a chat room hacker that got pissed off? > >I understand AUP regarding what actually happens on an account. > >Unless the "throwaway" account can be tied to your customer, >then I don't understand the justification for compromising >service. Ah, but there's the problem and Karl D. is right. The *real* answer is to do away with throw-away accounts. Yes, the provider of the throw-away account knows exactly who the spammer is (I won't go any deeper than that), they have a CC number. If that data matches our customer, that customer becomes $1500US poorer and stops being our customer. Tracing a spam to a particular dail-in port is not easy, but it's do-able. You then know who the provider is/was. >(I personally don't find "it's generally true", or "it's too much trouble", > or "the end justifies the means" to be especially convincing arguments.) > I don't either. ___________________________________________________ Roeland M.J. Meyer, ISOC (InterNIC RM993) e-mail: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] Internet phone: hawk.mhsc.com Personal web pages: <http://www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer>www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer Company web-site: <http://www.mhsc.com/>www.mhsc.com/ ___________________________________________ Who is John Galt? "Atlas Shrugged" - Ayn Rand
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