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Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users

  • From: Bob Allisat
  • Date: Thu Nov 19 13:53:56 1998

Karl Denninger writes:
> That looks an awful lot like an industry-wide blacklist, and those 
> are dangerously close to being per-se illegal.
> 
> There's nothing wrong with a single provider putting whatever 
> provisions in their agreements they see fit - you're always free 
> to shop for a new provider.  However, when industry actions 
> conspire to basically *force* certain provisions to be included in 
> *everyone's* contracts, and those provisions go beyond "don't do 
> illegal things", then IMHO you're exerting force that needs to be 
> very carefully thought out.

 When every Service Provider writes
 a carte blanche paragraph into their
 alleged Acceptable Use Policies
 allowing such practices as "Black
 Holing", content deletion, account
 termination etc. we become hostages
 to commercial entities. Whatever
 rights, freedoms and liberties we
 have are eliminated in favour of
 Kangaroo courts like Vixie's network
 or RBL finks, Customer Services
 flunkies and over-bearing capitalists
 like Mr. Denniger here. They hide
 behind arguments that their systems
 are private property and their
 alleged "property rights" are
 more important than our inalienable
 rights and freedoms.

 It is not our right merely to
 choose among companies and corporate
 entities. Our rights to security over
 our data and communications, to 
 privacy and access to commercial
 and personal e-mail, etc are all
 *SUPERIOR* to any tertiary rights
 these business organizations may
 claim. While Denniger shrieks in
 uncharachteristic defense of our
 liberties he is the first one to
 claim dominion over every machine
 and anything anyone does using
 those machines, telling them to
 basically get lost if they don't
 like it.

 We have universal, inalienable
 rights and freedoms. These precious
 things extend to private property
 and internationally. If we do not 
 fight to protect these inalienables
 we will suffer the rough consequences.
 Please visit <http://fcn.net> for
 more information.

 Respectfully,

 Bob Allisat

 Free Community Network _ [email protected] . http://fcn.net
 http://fcn.net/allisat _ http://fcn.net/draft