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It's unfortunate that some folks are so gung ho about their position that they would do something like that....oh wait...that applies to you too. C Chris Mauritz Director, Systems Administration Rare Medium, Inc. [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Karl Denninger [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, November 16, 1998 4:07 PM To: Chris Mauritz; Dean Anderson; Edward S. Marshall Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Hold on to your news servers Given that a large number of people have threatened to commit felonious acts (ping floods, etc) against these machines, I believe being "furtive" is quite appropriate. -- -- Karl Denninger ([email protected]) http://www.mcs.net/~karl I ain't even *authorized* to speak for anyone other than myself, so give up now on trying to associate my words with any particular organization. On Mon, Nov 16, 1998 at 04:03:49PM -0500, Chris Mauritz wrote: > Seems like if you were truly providing a useful service, you wouldn't need > to be so furtive about it. > > C > > Chris Mauritz > Director, Systems Administration > Rare Medium, Inc. > [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karl Denninger [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, November 16, 1998 3:00 PM > To: Dean Anderson; Edward S. Marshall > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Hold on to your news servers > > > On Mon, Nov 16, 1998 at 02:46:05PM -0500, Dean Anderson wrote: > > I don't know why you'd need to know who he gets news feeds from. Cancel > > leakage would be obvious enough to determine who is getting feeds from > Karl. > > > > I presume you'd complain to a) his internet providers/peers, b) his news > > feeds that leak cancels, and possibly c) anyone who is known to get a feed > > from him. And their providers/peers. > > > > I'd probably start with MCS which provides Karls service, and go on to > > good.net, nap.net, etc, presuming Karls boast about MCS not caring to help > > stop his leakage is true. Then repeat with the sources of the leakages. > > Uh, excuse me, but I don't have any affiliation with MCS nor do they have > anything to do with this service. If you want to do nothing other than > piss them off or get thrown in their admin's "ignore this kook" list, go > ahead. > > Who I buy my *personal* service from is none of your business. Nor your > concern, since that *personal* service obviously can't be the source of > this. > > Besides, I've already told the world that I intend to colocate the servers > at various points around the country, and that I have offers from people > to do that - who are WELL AWARE of what I'm up to. > > > I think as long as Karls system is completely separate from usenet, it > > could be fine. His scheme can possibly work if there is never a server > > that carries both regular Usenet and Karl's feed. But that is an > > unreasonable proposition. The problem is that someone will want to cross > > post karls feed into their feed. > > > > Remember, the Soviet Coup against Gorbachev failed (in part) because they > > couldn't manage to partition or shut off usenet news feeds, and news of > > events in Moscow leaked out. > > > > --Dean > > -- > -- > Karl Denninger ([email protected]) http://www.mcs.net/~karl > I ain't even *authorized* to speak for anyone other than myself, so give > up now on trying to associate my words with any particular organization. > > > > > > At 10:13 PM 11/13/1998 -0600, Karl Denninger wrote: > > >On Fri, Nov 13, 1998 at 09:42:41PM -0600, Edward S. Marshall wrote: > > >> On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Dean Anderson wrote: > > >> > Anyone who cancels someone elses post who is not a moderator or the > > >> > original poster should lose their account/job at ISP/etc. > > >> > > > >> > So lets start sending in complaints... > > >> > > >> And you'd complain to...who? Karl's an independant entity now. > > > > > >Correct :-) > > > > > >What's even more fun is that since the system doesn't EMIT any articles > > >it consumes (it emits only cancels, sourced there) you can't figure out > > >where it gets its feeds from.... good luck getting the system's feeds > > >cut off under those circumstances :-) > > > > > >-- > > >-- > > >Karl Denninger ([email protected]) http://www.mcs.net/~karl > > >I ain't even *authorized* to speak for anyone other than myself, so give > > >up now on trying to associate my words with any particular organization. > > > > > > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Plain Aviation, Inc [email protected] > > LAN/WAN/UNIX/NT/TCPIP http://www.av8.com > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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