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Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited

  • From: Tim Pozar
  • Date: Mon Nov 16 16:44:21 1998

I would suggest that they would not be RBLed as 

	1] this is a list that can be easily (I assume) opted out of.
	2] They are sending to folks that use the service.
	3] I see no effort below from the RBL team to try to correct 
	   their issues before action to put them on the RBL.

I would suggest that the RBL team suggest that there be a "kinder" way
of folks opting into this "list" although I have seen much worse from 
"legit" mailing lists programs (majordomo) and maintainers (egroups).

A "kinder" way that could be suggested would be to annouce the list as 
an opt-in in some missive that NSI normally sends out such as domain 
payment requests.

Tim Pozar
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[email protected] wrote:
> Paul A Vixie <[email protected]> on 11/16/98 02:17:36 AM
> 
> To:   [email protected]
> cc:    (bcc: Ron Johnson/Enron Communications)
> Subject:  RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited
> 
> The RBL team and I are kind of wondering what to do about some spam we got.
> Because blackholing NSI would be of operational concern to a lot of you,
> I've decided to ponder this question out loud:
> 
> ------- Forwarded Message
> 
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:50:26 PST
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Paul - value call on this
> 
> Technically, this is an opt-out customer-relationship spam.
> 
> I think it is a special case, because _there is no where else to go_.
> 
> 208.226.58.70 should be RBL'ed, IMHO.  Help me.
> 
> > Return-Path: [email protected]
> > Received: from pasteur.netsol.com ([208.226.58.70]) by ns2.galaxy-net.net
> > (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA00585; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:50:06 -0800
> (PST)
> > Received: from pasteur (pasteur [208.226.58.70])
> >    by pasteur.netsol.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA23788;
> >    Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:40:31 -0500 (EST)
> > Received: from LISTS.NETSOL.COM by LISTS.NETSOL.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP
> release
> >           1.8c) with spool id 0342 for [email protected]; Tue, 10
> Nov
> >           1998 15:01:15 -0500
> > Received: (from [email protected]) by pasteur.netsol.com (8.9.1/8.9.1)
> id
> >           PAA18548 for [email protected]; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:01:14
> > -0500
> >           (EST)
> > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25]
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > Message-ID:  <[email protected]>
> > Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:01:14 -0500
> > Reply-To: [email protected]
> > Sender: Owner-Admin <[email protected]>
> > From: List Manager Account <[email protected]>
> > Subject:      Network Solutions' E-Commerce Update
> > To: [email protected]
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> > ###########################
> >
> > Dear Customer,
> >
> > You are a valued customer and we want to help increase and
> > protect the value of your domain name. As a free added benefit of
> > your domain name registration, we would like to send you our
> > "E-Commerce Update" from time to time. In these updates, we will
> > try to identify helpful information and news that you can use to
> > enhance the value of your Web address. If you do not wish to
> > receive this newsletter in the future, simply respond to this
> > e-mail with the word "remove" in the first line of the message.
> > If you have any questions or comments, please send them to
> > [email protected]
> >
> > Network Solutions - the world's leading provider of domain name
> > services -- together with VeriSign -- the world's leading Web
> > security provider -- has published a new informative guide to
> > on-line security, "Securing Your Web Site for Business."
> >
> > "Securing Your Web Site for Business" outlines the options you
> > have to secure and protect your Web site. By downloading your
> > free copy (http://www.verisign.com/nsi/whitepaper), you will be
> > able to learn how easy it is to secure your site in order to
> > protect yourself and your customers.
> >
> > Issues covered in "Securing Your Web Site for Business" include:
> >
> > * Why on-line security problems could slow the growth of your
> > business
> > * How to maximize your on-line security at a low cost
> > * How to accept credit cards and sell products on-line---securely
> > * What a Digital ID is
> > * Why you need a Digital ID
> > * How to obtain a Digital ID for your Web site
> >
> > As an additional service to our customers, Network Solutions and
> > VeriSign bring you a special free trial version Secure Server ID.
> > VeriSign Secure Server IDs are the security solution currently
> > used by over 90 percent of Web sites conducting secure online
> > commerce and this free trial will allow you to experience how
> > easy Web site security can be. Please visit us at
> > http://www.verisign.com/nsi/trial to start experiencing the
> > benefits of on-line security today.
> >
> > We would also like to take this opportunity to remind you of the
> > importance of keeping your Network Solutions domain name records
> > up to date. Incorrect data can result in your next invoice being
> > delivered to the wrong location, and may cause delays when you
> > request other services such as a Secure Server Digital ID. To
> > review your domain name records and the associated information go
> > to http://www.internic.net/verisign/update.html.
> >
> > Thank you for being a Network Solutions customer. We look forward
> > to serving your future domain name needs.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Doug Wolford
> > Senior Vice President
> 
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