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Re: RBL quandry - opinions hereby solicited

  • From: John M. Brown
  • Date: Mon Nov 16 06:55:41 1998

Hmm....  Thinking out loud here... (is 4:30 AM)

I wonder how many times this message will be sent.
Otherwords one for each domain?

Does this mean that I have to "opt-out" for each domain I have
registered???? Yuk.

Maybe a new field is needed when creating a domain, 
__ Check here to NOT receive anything except invoices from NSI

Then the thought of complaining to [email protected] is not
so good as that means more (non registeration based) email to
be handled by the auto script stuff.

Personally I would like to see NSI respond to this before I say
one way or the other.  RBL'ing NSI would cause some ops problems
and they don't really need any more right now :)

I personally don't want to receive anything from them EXCEPT invoice
notifications, Update Changes, etc.  If I want to purchase something
or learn more about them, I'll surf their web site and maybe signup
for their newsletter thingy. (Thats Opt-IN)

I really hate having to "OPT-OUT" of something, its one more thing
to do and I never know if it will really stick or not.

I don't think I have a solid yes/no answer.  I'll wait for NSI to respond.
Chuck, David??????

[email protected]



At 02:17 AM 11/16/98 -0800, you wrote:
>The RBL team and I are kind of wondering what to do about some spam we got.
>Because blackholing NSI would be of operational concern to a lot of you, I've
>decided to ponder this question out loud:
>
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>
>Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:50:26 PST
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Paul - value call on this
>
>Technically, this is an opt-out customer-relationship spam.
>
>I think it is a special case, because _there is no where else to go_.
>
>208.226.58.70 should be RBL'ed, IMHO.  Help me.
>
>> Return-Path: [email protected]
>> Received: from pasteur.netsol.com ([208.226.58.70]) by ns2.galaxy-net.net
>> (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA00585; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:50:06 -0800 (PST)
>> Received: from pasteur (pasteur [208.226.58.70])
>> 	by pasteur.netsol.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA23788;
>> 	Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:40:31 -0500 (EST)
>> Received: from LISTS.NETSOL.COM by LISTS.NETSOL.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP
release
>>           1.8c) with spool id 0342 for [email protected]; Tue, 10 Nov
>>           1998 15:01:15 -0500
>> Received: (from [email protected]) by pasteur.netsol.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id
>>           PAA18548 for [email protected]; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:01:14
>> -0500
>>           (EST)
>> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25]
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> Message-ID:  <[email protected]>
>> Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:01:14 -0500
>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>> Sender: Owner-Admin <[email protected]>
>> From: List Manager Account <[email protected]>
>> Subject:      Network Solutions' E-Commerce Update
>> To: [email protected]
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>> 
>> ###########################
>> 
>> Dear Customer,
>> 
>> You are a valued customer and we want to help increase and
>> protect the value of your domain name. As a free added benefit of
>> your domain name registration, we would like to send you our
>> "E-Commerce Update" from time to time. In these updates, we will
>> try to identify helpful information and news that you can use to
>> enhance the value of your Web address. If you do not wish to
>> receive this newsletter in the future, simply respond to this
>> e-mail with the word "remove" in the first line of the message.
>> If you have any questions or comments, please send them to
>> [email protected]
>> 
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>> services -- together with VeriSign -- the world's leading Web
>> security provider -- has published a new informative guide to
>> on-line security, "Securing Your Web Site for Business."
>> 
>> "Securing Your Web Site for Business" outlines the options you
>> have to secure and protect your Web site. By downloading your
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>> 
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>> 

>> * Why on-line security problems could slow the growth of your
>> business
>> * How to maximize your on-line security at a low cost
>> * How to accept credit cards and sell products on-line---securely
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>> 
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>> 
>> We would also like to take this opportunity to remind you of the
>> importance of keeping your Network Solutions domain name records
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>> 
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>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Doug Wolford
>> Senior Vice President
>
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