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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: Hold on to your news servers
At 10:33 AM 11/15/98 -0600, Karl Denninger wrote: >On Sun, Nov 15, 1998 at 08:14:57AM -0800, Derek Balling wrote: >> >This is a NEW service, operating on hardware which will be purchased >> >specifically for this purpose by a non-profit organization set up >> >explicitly to do this and other public-interest Internet-related things. >> >> How is making you the Lord High Executioner of Errant Binary Posts in the >> public interest? >> > >It is in the public interest to get both the copyright violations and the >kiddie porn off Usenet. So in YOUR opinion, it is in the public interest to enforce American laws - or your interpretation of them - in countries that could give a damn about our copyright issues and such? And you're going to do that by violating the very fundamental tenet of the first amendment - by making you register before you speak (or in this case post). What you're saying is that if two people in country X (X being some nameless country who either cares nothing about copyright laws, of which there are many, or cares nothing about child pornography laws, of which there are very few) are sending binaries back and forth to each other, then if the news server they're on happens to be indirectly connected through however many hops to YOUR news server, you're going to tell them they can't do what their country's laws allow? And yes, this is where you mention that "the ONLY people who see the cancel messages are those who explicitly ask for them, yada yada yada" and this is where, given that statement, I offer to sell you a moderately sized bridge in the NYC area, because leaks happen. Leaks in Usenet are like the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park - they happen, despite all your best efforts not to. Just make sure to remind anyone who peers with you who is either a government entity or recieves government funds, that if they peer with you they can kiss their federal money goodbye the day the ACLU gets wind of it. The first amendment doesn't stop you from muzzling whoever you want, but people who get government money CAN'T be engaged in that sort of thing. :) (Prior restraint and such). This is my last post on the topic, I'm officially giving up on you taking a ride on the Clue Bus. You have a god-given right to be a moron if you choose, please feel free to exercise it. Maybe we can all derive a collective chuckle from watching you fall on your face. Still trying to develop the Personal RBL, Derek
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