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Re: Despamming wholesale dialup

  • From: scott w
  • Date: Fri Oct 30 14:49:56 1998


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On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Henry Linneweh wrote:

>  NEW SOFTWARE, NOT CONGRESS MAY STOP SPAM
> (Source: PC World Online) If you're sick of being deluged with
> junk e-mail, don't look for relief from Congress, where only one
> pending bill is even close to passage.
> http://www.idg.net/go.cgi?id=34539
> 
> hmm this may be an option worth looking into....
> 
> Henry R. Linneweh
> 
> Bryan Bradsby wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Phil Howard wrote:
> >
> > > These are actually two separate issues:
> > >
> > > 1.  Open SMTP relays
> > >
> > > 2.  Dialup ports open to all SMTP servers
> > >
> > > While these two issues do interact, and a perfect solution to one of them
> > > makes the other much less of an impact, they do both need to be addressed
> > > as distinct issues.
> >
> > Exactly.
> >
> > Attempting to assist responsible netops in closing their open relays
> > addresses issue #1.  Send them a respectful, helpful and friendly note.
> >
> > I would like to discuss item #2. See below.
> >
> > > > But my question is - Would responsible netops be willing to give me a list
> > > > of their (non-relaying) SMTP servers?
> > >
> > > I'm curious what such a list would be used for.  Would you limit access to
> > > just those SMTP servers?
> >
> > Exactly. I would open up port 25 incoming for responsible (not an open
> > relay) SMTP servers.  Thus real customers could send their legitmate mail.
> >
> > Block port 25 (only) from all "open modem banks" (TM) to my SMTP servers.
> > If implemented on a large enough scale, the modem user will be
> > 'encouraged' to use the SMTP server supplied with their account. Make each
> > dialup customer go through, and be authenticated by their own SMTP server.
> >
> > Each OMB filter will most likely be a /24 or larger block of IP addresses.
> >
> > The logic is simple. There are more modems than SMTP servers. Block port
> > 25 from the OMBs, open up for corresponding (responsible) SMTP servers.
> >
> > Either an operator directs (by filter) port 25 on his modem banks to his
> > SMTP servers, (preventing OMB), or we do it for him.  The intent is a
> > convergence on a suggested Best Practice.
> >
> > > Would that not form a rather long access list?
> >
> > Perhaps for a router or firewall, but not for a sendmail access.db.
> >
> > >  --    *-----------------------------*      Phil Howard KA9WGN       *    --
> > >   --   | Inturnet, Inc.              | Director of Internet Services |   --
> > >    --  | Business Internet Solutions |       eng at intur.net        |  --
> > >     -- *-----------------------------*      philh at intur.net       * --
> >
> > -bryan
> > [email protected]
> 
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