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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed?
Well, I'll grant this response is much better than your initial sarcastic remarks. Do I want regulators involved in some of these processes? At this point, I'm not sure, perhaps. I do think the total inability of the community to regulate or govern itself is, at this point, a sad fact. On September 30, 1998 at 15:31 [email protected] (Karl Mueller) wrote: > > > >I'm not sure what your problem is or what prompted this childish > >remark. I'm sorry if I presented what I believe to have been a > >reasoned comment with evidence and documentation etc. and somehow > >elicted this from you. I can't figure out why, however. > > > [...] > > Really, Barry, it never ceases to amaze me how people turn > their particular experience or view of something on the Internet > into what reality is or what should happen. After all Barry, > YOU have seen .to domains used for criminal activities, and > none of them to the contrary! Oh-my-God! That must mean > that the whole TLD is nothing but a joke, or a haven for these people. > I'd laugh but it's not really funny. > > See, originally I was going to write an email on how Tonga had > contacted IANA to run this idea of a registry by them. After all, > it is their domain and they saw a business opportunity. Given > that we have certain other TLDs selling domains (say, oh, .COM and .NET), > I think the IANA figured it was their TLD to do with as they pleased. > (within reason, of course) > > Now, a good possible issue you could have brought up is .to addresses > being used outside of Tonga, although I think this is a pretty moot > point. But, reality is that it's silly to use DNS (or really anything else) > to try and pinpoint geography on the Internet. Unless you are suggesting > a plan to monitor inverse DNS mapping, I don't think there's much > you can do here. > > Instead, you choose to bring up spamming activities and criminal > activities. Well, gee, when was the last time you contacted the > InterNIC over a spam issue, Barry? Like TONIC, it's a *public* registry. > Like TONIC, it has *nothing* to do with spamming issues. > > It would be completely out of line for the NANOG and other communities > to try and address the real problem of spamming by looking > at TLDs. That is completely missing the problem, and a waste of time. > Not only that, but it gets regulators interested in the wrong > area. Do you really want regulators deciding what you can and cannot > do with domain names or TLDs? Think about it. (and that's a different > issue than whether it's legal to spam with a domain) > > My apologies to cc'ing NANOG again. I tried to make light of > the idiocies but failed. > > Karl > > P.S. My affiliation with Best has nothing to do with this. TONIC could > move easily to another ISP. > > P.P.S. Your "points" about them running a humerous version of > sendmail scare me because they're so bogus. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | [email protected] | http://www.world.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202 | Login: 617-739-WRLD The World | Public Access Internet | Since 1989 *oo* |