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  • From: Jay R. Ashworth
  • Date: Tue Aug 25 13:51:21 1998

On Sat, Aug 22, 1998 at 07:13:22AM -0700, Michael Dillon wrote:
> > Pray someone doesn't write a call-back protocol, so traffic flows in
> > the opposite direction from the original initiator of the IP 'transaction'.
> FTP already does this. Nevertheless, the largest number of bytes still
> flows in the same direction as it would with HTTP. I think you are
> agreeing with me that the initiator of the transaction is irrelevant.

Michael, you've always struck me as one of the saner inhabitants of
this list -- which I guess really translates as "you and I almost
always have the same outlook on things" :-) -- but this must be where
we part company.

In the current context, which I would translate as "who is responsible
for the bytes moving over a link -- and therefore ought to pay for it",
it's pretty obvious to _me_ that if Exodus' customers are sending data
to GTEI's customers _because the latter requested it_, then Exodus
ought not, in equity, to be considered "responsible" for that data;
they were just doing as asked.

> I would go further and say that the customers of the peers and their actions
> are also irrelevant to the peering relationship.

On this, hoewver, I agree.  The real breakage here is GETI attempting
to redefine "peering".  The net got where it is today as a
"non-settlement" network.  Any plan to change that would have to be
documented in about 50 pages for me to buy it.

-- jra
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