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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again?
This does make sense - a lot of sense. -- -- Karl Denninger ([email protected])| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/ | T1's from $600 monthly / All Lines K56Flex/DOV | NEW! Corporate ISDN Prices dropped by up to 50%! Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| EXCLUSIVE NEW FEATURE ON ALL PERSONAL ACCOUNTS Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | *SPAMBLOCK* Technology now included at no cost On Sat, May 30, 1998 at 12:26:31AM -0400, Jamie Scheinblum wrote: > Suggestion: > > The initial ASN should be bundled with a /19 to create a "multi-home" > package. Unbundled ASNs whould be unreasonably high to cover the > administration of the initial ASNs of the world, and the cost associated > with a /19. > > In reality it seems you need both, a /19 to make it past the route filters, > and an ASN. This also save on the ARIN support side, since the ARIN > employee tasked with making the call to verify the customer does in fact > have 2 T-1s (or has 2 ISPs vouch he will have at least a T1 with each), can > also verify they will accept the routes for the ASN. > > Seems like this would cut the administraion on ARIN's behalf a bit, and make > it "more fair" to the smaller networks looking to multi-home (See Karl's > proposal on IP allocation). > > [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Dillon [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, May 30, 1998 12:02 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again? > > > On Fri, 29 May 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > Now, let's look at the parallels: > > > > 1. Both are required to "do business" in a given sector (ie: announce > > routes, sell to the Erate customer base) > > > > 2. Both are simple *technical* providers (assignment of a number, with > > the important being that it is unique in both cases). > > > > 3. One is free to the ISP. > > > > 4. The other costs $500.00 > > 5. One is financed by the government out of your taxes and is merely an > accounting formality much like a customer ID number. The other is funded > by a corporation that has no government funding and must support itself > not unlike most businesses and the number is a critical infrastructure > identifier something like an NPA-NXX. > > > What is going on here? ASNs didn't used to cost money until ARIN got its > > claws into them. > > ASNs have always cost money to issue. It's just that in the past it was > funded out of taxes funnelled through the NSF to a subcontractor and > hidden somewhere in NSI's budget. Those days are gone, thank God. > > -- > Michael Dillon - Internet & ISP Consulting > Memra Communications Inc. - E-mail: [email protected] > http://www.memra.com - *check out the new name & new website* >
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