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At 07:32 AM 5/29/98 -0500, Karl Denninger wrote: >On Fri, May 29, 1998 at 12:07:01AM -0400, Avi Freedman wrote: >> As a general idea, I don't have a problem with having some resistor >> to demand for AS numbers, but $500 probably isn't much of a resistor. >> >> But clearly it can take $100 or $200 of time to evaluate a request, >> trace topology, and/or verify with the future upstreams the validity. >> >> Avi > >It requires $100 worth of someone's time to make two phone calls and/or read >two signed service agreements? > >Perhaps if ARIN is paying their people $100/hour, yes. > >(This is a CLERK's job) Now, I am far from ARIN's biggest fan, but I think Avi's estimate is reasonable. I've see lots of companies trying to hold down costs and it still takes over $100 to handle 30 to 60 minutes of paperwork. Remember the overhead of office space, insurance, etc., etc. Plus it takes more than 5 minutes to actually do something like this. Plus lots of other administrative details, etc. Five hundred may be high, might not, but it is definitely close to reasonable. >If you want a SECOND one for administrative convenience or whatever, now for >THAT I can see charging a significant fee. Why? Because its not *necessary* >for you to have a second one. You might WANT a second ASN, you might in >fact want several of them for policy routing reasons, but that's not the >same thing as a NEED for a second (or subsequent) ASN. Hrmmmmm.... I think this could be a very good idea. There are lots of arguments on both sides, but I think that if you are so large you need two (or more) ASNs - globally unique ASNs - you should probably bear a larger portion of the burden of running ARIN. I mean, if you were really good, couldn't you just use the private ASNs and confederations or something? >Karl Denninger ([email protected])| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin TTFN, patrick ************************************************************** Patrick W. Gilmore voice: +1-650-482-2840 Director of Operations, CCIE #2983 fax: +1-650-482-2844 PRIORI NETWORKS, INC. http://www.priori.net "Tomorrow's Performance.... Today" **************************************************************
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