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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: ARIN allocating /20 netblocks?
On Sun, May 17, 1998 at 10:27:00AM -0000, Michael K. Smith wrote: > Michael Dillon said on 5/17/98 6:13 AM > > >On Sat, 16 May 1998, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > >> agency). Renumbering THEM would be a job out of the depths of Hades > >> itself; even broaching the subject would likely cost us the account. > > > >I see. So if you tell the customer that they need to renumber, then they > >tell you to stuff it and switch to a new provider who... tells them that > >they must renumber out of your soon-to-be-reassigned address space. > > > >I just don't see this as a realistic example of a situation in which a > >renumbering ISP is at a severe business disadvantage. In fact I can't > >remember ever seeing any such realistic example nor do I ever remember > >hearing of a case in which an ISP lost a significant amount of business > >because of renumbering. > > > > We have renumbered out of two /20's and 2 /19's and, although we haven't > lost any dedicated customers, our time investment in the process has been > unreal. In several instances we had to go onsite and do the renumbering > for them. Of course, the first time you go onsite, the tech guy isn't > there, so that's half a day for two people lost. Then, the next time you > go, he doesn't have the passwords to the server, so you have to come back > again... And, because this is something we are requiring them to do, we > can't charge them for it. > > Let's not forget to mention the 10,000 dialup customers who have to > change their DNS numbers. We have sent snail-mail and e-mail over and > over again, yet only about 1/3 of that 10k have actually made the change > away from the old numbers. How many of those customers do you think > we'll lose when we officially turn off the old ip's? At least 1/4 to 1/3rd of them. -- -- Karl Denninger ([email protected])| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/ | T1's from $600 monthly / All Lines K56Flex/DOV | NEW! Corporate ISDN Prices dropped by up to 50%! Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| EXCLUSIVE NEW FEATURE ON ALL PERSONAL ACCOUNTS Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | *SPAMBLOCK* Technology now included at no cost
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