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Re: [Fwd: smurf... still?]

  • From: Michael Gibson
  • Date: Thu Feb 05 10:33:52 1998

We at Netcom Canada, only migrated the customer base for portions of the old
Hookup network.  The Hookup core was torn down, with the address space going
to Interhop (another ISP in Toronto).

Michael Gibson
Sr. Network Admin - Netcom Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: Murray S. Kucherawy <[email protected]>
To: Heather Knape <[email protected]>
Cc: Sharif Torpis <[email protected]>; [email protected]
<[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>;
[email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, February 05, 1998 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Fwd: smurf... still?]


>Yep, I left HookUp in very early January of 1997.  I wouldn't even know
>who to talk to up there at this point.  I don't think HookUp exists
>anymore, but clearly some of their equipment is still on and running,
>presumably for the customer transition to NetCom.
>
>You guys are on your own with this one.  You might try seeking help from
>their upstream providers, Sprint Canada I believe.
>
>Incidentally, my last name isn't "Kucher", it's "Kucherawy".  There still
>are some last names out there that don't fit in UNIX userids, you know.
>:-)
>
>-MSK
>
>On Wed, 4 Feb 1998, Heather Knape wrote:
>> nope-ola...he's gone down to concentric.
>>
>> I think he is [email protected]
>> -Heather
>> >
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>> > can u forward this to murray? [email protected] bounces ... is he still
>> > there?
>> >
>> > --
>> > "Gas, grass, or ass, nobody rides for free."
>> >
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>> > From: [email protected]
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>> > Wed, 4 Feb 1998 01:22:23 -0500 (EST)
>> > Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 01:22:22 -0500
>> > To: Tatsuya Kawasaki <[email protected]>
>> > Cc: Daniel Reed <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: smurf... still?
>> > References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]t.net>
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from Tatsuya Kawasaki on Wed, Feb 04, 1998 at 12:01:49PM +0900
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>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 04, 1998 at 12:01:49PM +0900, Tatsuya Kawasaki wrote:
>> > > Daniel,
>> > >
>> > > Try [email protected]
>> > >
>> > > HookUp Communications
>> > > 165.154.0.0/16
>> > >
>> > > do you think this will help?
>> >
>> > Daniel,
>> >
>> > $ whois 167.154.0.0
>> >    1075 North Service Road West, Suite 207
>> >    Oakville, Ontario L6M 2G2
>> >    Canada
>> >
>> >    Netname: HOOKUP-NET-4
>> >    Netnumber: 165.154.0.0
>> >
>> > Murray Kucher ([email protected], still listed as hookup's contact in
>> > various databases) has long left HookUp; I don't believe his
@hookup.net
>> > address works anymore.
>> >
>> > To confuse matters further, NetCom Canada has some odd ownership of
HookUp,
>> > whom I believe declared bankruptcy.  Last I heard, NetCom only acquired
>> > HookUp's customer base.  I mention this in the event that you are
unable
>> > to find anyone at HookUp -- try a contact from www.netcom.ca instead.
>> >
>> > [email protected] may forward somewhere useful.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps,
>> >
>> > -Chris
>> >
>> > Chris Portman =================================================
[email protected]
>> > Senior Systems Operations and Security                     iSTAR
Internet Inc.
>> > (613) 788-7767                                                  Ottawa,
ON, CA
>> >
>> >
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>
>--
>Murray S. Kucherawy =============================================
[email protected]
>Senior Software Engineer/UNIX Wizard            Concentric Network
Corporation
>(408) 342-2800                NIC Handle "MSK"              Cupertino, CA,
USA
># "Do you lead, or are you led?  Are you sure that you don't care?" -- INXS
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