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On Wed, Jan 21, 1998 at 04:41:17PM -0500, Dean Anderson wrote: > > If I am paying you to carry packets, you have an obligation to carry them. > Blocking some of them is illegal. (ala AGIS). Every packet that goes > through your network is paid for by one of your customers, one of their > customers, and so on. And how do I... or how does the company I work for.. have an obligation to some spammer on a different ISP, if he is spamming NACS.NET? There's no contract there, nor is there any payment. I still don't think you're a spammer, but you sure do sound like one. > >to deliver something you handed me for delivery. Or are you suggesting > >mail servers should deliver mail without determining who it is for? > > Nope. Thats service observing. Illegal. and you can cite laws or legal precedents that support your position, I'm sure. > >If I review the content of your message, and then make decisions about > >who gets to read it (as opposed to discarding it), then I am intercepting, > >and reprehensible. > > And crimminal. see above. > You are obligated to carry the packets you are paid to carry. You may not > look at their contents other than for incidental reasons, such as routing > and delivery. (and correct routing and delivery.) I, as ISP X, am not obligated to carry any packets from ISP Y unless ISP Y is a downstream client of mine with a signed contract. Find me a judge who says otherwise and I'll believe you. > But don't take my word for it. Look at Cheswick and Bellovin on page 205. > They say the same thing. Irrelevant in most cases. -- Steve Sobol - [email protected] NACS FAQ: http://www.nacs.net/support/faq Maintainer of the NACS.NET Tech Support Site at http://www.nacs.net/support DNS guy, Postmaster, "Web Dude", and AUP Person/Spaminator (T.I.N.C.) 128K ISDN. Flat rate. $37.50 per month. You know you want it, so why don't you call me? 216 619-2000, 1-888-273-NACS. "Operators are standing by!" :)
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