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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- JimL; At 02:39 PM 12/27/97 -0800, Network Operations Center wrote: > > Hello Karl & All, Where or at what price are these tools > available. MCI's tracing tool, DoSTracker, is available- free of charge - at MCI's Security Web site; http://www.security.mci.net/dostracker . Please let me know if you have ANY problems with it. Keep in mind that it was designed with specific operating conditions in mind; mostly that you'll need a tool of this nature to trace denial of service attacks (of a wide variety) across a backbone that you own, in order to find it's ingress point. If you're a single-homed end customer (AND you have a small internal network), DoSTrack isn't going to be a very worthwhile tool for you. > Tia, JimL >PS: In a further responce Karl was heard to say : > >> The bottom line is that MONTHS after these were made available your NOC crew > > I never heard nor was made aware that these tools were available, > even though I am an MCI Customer . :-( > Sorry - Identifying the specific and correct contact within all our end customers who would be interested in such a tool is a difficult task (and I don't make it a habit of sending unsolicited commercial email messages, even if they are to our customers :> ), which is why discussion lists of this nature where created, and DoSTracker was announced on this list. Feel free to visit; http://infopage.mci.net and http://www.security.mci.net, which should provide you the type of information you are looking for, and is regularly (?) updated. Dale "We all live in a Yellow Subroutine..." ================================================================ Dale Drew MCI Telecommunications Sr. Manager internetMCI Security Engineering Voice: 703/715-7058 Internet: [email protected] Fax: 703/715-7066 MCIMAIL: Dale_Drew/644-3335 >On Sat, 27 Dec 1997, Karl Denninger wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 27, 1997 at 01:24:05PM -0500, Reid B. Fishler wrote: >> > Just thought that I would post that as one of goodnet's larger >>>customers (DS3), we are >> > VERY satisfied with their NOC, as well as their service. Whenever I >>>have a problem, I >> > can get a member of the goodnet staff to respond quicker than my >>>other upstreams...:-) >> > (hint Sprint) >> > >> > Reid Fishler >> > Lightning Internet Services, LLC >> >> Wait until you get smurfed and ask them to use the MCI-developed tracing >> tools and get a "duhhhhh" back in response. >> >> They might have fixed this by now (since we bitched LOUDLY about this) but >> as of a few weeks ago the NOC had *no idea* how to trace this kind of >> activity - at all - nor any desire to learn. > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Business Security 5.5 Comment: http://www.security.mci.net iQCVAwUBNKV+pUgZkk8pWFn9AQFWKQP/cUyFanBKKwL3SoH6hhAlikKCyjY4ibjm AJtzkjHXXEvnXPqG8IKioCSaJTy6DwIM9HCDI8Fpu+ISM0XOHk7FRPFIw0SUSOLd 8Bi2pCW7sWUtv+4LsNIA9/gfUUlALyUm8VgXqMUdekNq7htgYDhc6vXGbH/p8ES8 XznwbE3ddJY= =8C1b -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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