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Although it is not likely that Avi is wrong, I'm sorry that this whole mess has degenerated to "did-to did-not" loops. Sigh. Avi Freedman wrote: > > You may have been peering with them but you were ALSO default-routing > to them. > > >From 4/96: > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > NOW TRYING: [e0-10m.mae-east.netrail.net (192.41.177.228)] > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------------- to mci through [e0-10m.mae-east.netrail.net] > > trace 204.70.57.10 > > Type escape sequence to abort. > Tracing the route to internetmci-ipdev.Washington.mci.net (204.70.57.10) > > 1 e0-10m.mae-east.netrail.net (192.41.177.228) [AS 3491] 376 msec 120 msec 120 > msec > 2 S2-T1.nr-2-Arlington-VA.netrail.net (205.215.63.5) [AS 4006] 128 msec 136 ms > ec 148 msec > 3 E0-10M.nr-1-Arlington-VA.netrail.net (205.215.4.1) [AS 4006] 148 msec 8 msec > 8 msec > 4 204.70.56.29 [AS 3561] 8 msec 12 msec 8 msec > 5 core1-fddi-0.Washington.mci.net (204.70.2.1) [AS 3561] 20 msec 12 msec 12 ms > ec > 6 border2-fddi-0.Washington.mci.net (204.70.3.2) [AS 3561] 12 msec 12 msec 12 > msec > 7 internetmci-ipdev.Washington.mci.net (204.70.57.10) [AS 3561] 12 msec * 8 m > sec > mae-netaxs# > > -------------------- to sprint through [e0-10m.mae-east.netrail.net] > > trace 204.117.214.13 > > Type escape sequence to abort. > Tracing the route to ftp.sprintlink.net (204.117.214.13) > > 1 e0-10m.mae-east.netrail.net (192.41.177.228) [AS 3491] 4 msec 8 msec 4 msec > 2 S2-T1.nr-2-Arlington-VA.netrail.net (205.215.63.5) [AS 4006] 8 msec 12 msec > 8 msec > 3 E0-10M.nr-1-Arlington-VA.netrail.net (205.215.4.1) [AS 4006] 8 msec 8 msec 8 > msec > 4 204.70.56.29 [AS 3561] 8 msec 12 msec 12 msec > 5 core1-fddi-0.Washington.mci.net (204.70.2.1) [AS 3561] 12 msec 8 msec 12 mse > c > 6 204.70.3.4 [AS 3561] 104 msec 12 msec 8 msec > 7 204.70.74.118 [AS 3561] 8 msec 8 msec 12 msec > 8 sl-mae-e-f0/0.sprintlink.net (192.41.177.241) [AS 3491] 8 msec 24 msec 12 ms > ec > 9 sl-dc-8-H1/0-T3.sprintlink.net (144.228.10.41) [AS 1239] 32 msec 12 msec 12 > msec > 10 sl-dc-6-F0/0.sprintlink.net (144.228.20.6) [AS 1239] 12 msec 8 msec 8 msec > 11 ftp.sprintlink.net (204.117.214.13) [AS 1239] 8 msec 8 msec 12 msec > mae-netaxs# > > -------------------- to agis through [e0-10m.mae-east.netrail.net] > > trace 205.137.48.30 > > Type escape sequence to abort. > Tracing the route to agisgate.agis.net (205.137.48.30) > > 1 e0-10m.mae-east.netrail.net (192.41.177.228) [AS 3491] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec > 2 S2-T1.nr-2-Arlington-VA.netrail.net (205.215.63.5) [AS 4006] 8 msec 8 msec 1 > 2 msec > 3 E0-10M.nr-1-Arlington-VA.netrail.net (205.215.4.1) [AS 4006] 8 msec 8 msec 8 > msec > 4 border1-serial2-5.Washington.mci.net (204.70.56.29) [AS 3561] 4 msec 8 msec > 8 msec > 5 core1-fddi-0.Washington.mci.net (204.70.2.1) [AS 3561] 16 msec 8 msec 8 msec > 6 204.70.1.6 [AS 3561] 80 msec 208 msec 208 msec > 7 204.70.3.18 [AS 3561] 204 msec 16 msec 12 msec > 8 sprint-nap.NewYork.mci.net (204.70.45.6) [AS 3561] 16 msec 16 msec 20 msec > 9 agis.sprint.ep.net (192.157.69.19) [AS 1239] 28 msec 16 msec 20 msec > 10 pennsauken.agis.net (205.137.61.2) [AS 4200] 52 msec 208 msec 212 msec > 11 detroit-trenton.detroit.agis.net (205.137.60.233) [AS 4200] 40 msec 48 msec > 52 msec > 12 agis.detroit.agis.net (205.137.60.66) [AS 4200] 44 msec 64 msec 52 msec > 13 agisgate.agis.net (205.137.48.30) [AS 4200] 60 msec 56 msec 52 msec > mae-netaxs# > > -------------------- to ans through [e0-10m.mae-east.netrail.net] > > trace 192.77.167.33 > > Type escape sequence to abort. > Tracing the route to www.ans.net (192.77.167.33) > > 1 e0-10m.mae-east.netrail.net (192.41.177.228) [AS 3491] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec > 2 S2-T1.nr-2-Arlington-VA.netrail.net (205.215.63.5) [AS 4006] 8 msec 12 msec > 4 msec > 3 E0-10M.nr-1-Arlington-VA.netrail.net (205.215.4.1) [AS 4006] 8 msec 8 msec 8 > msec > 4 border1-serial2-5.Washington.mci.net (204.70.56.29) [AS 3561] 8 msec 8 msec > 8 msec > 5 borderx1-fddi0-0.Washington.mci.net (204.70.2.4) [AS 3561] 36 msec 80 msec 8 > msec > 6 mae-east-plusplus.washington.mci.net (204.70.74.102) [AS 3561] 8 msec 8 msec > 12 msec > 7 mae-east.ans.net (192.41.177.140) [AS 3491] 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec > 8 ft3.cnss56.Washington-DC.t3.ans.net (140.222.56.4) [AS 690] 12 msec 12 msec > 8 msec > 9 f0.cnss61.Washington-DC.t3.ans.net (140.222.56.197) [AS 690] 12 msec 8 msec > 12 msec > 10 enss186.t3.ans.net (199.221.107.86) [AS 1327] 192 msec 136 msec 140 msec > 11 www.ans.net (192.77.167.33) [AS 1327] 80 msec * 136 msec > mae-netaxs# > > -------------------- to psi through [e0-10m.mae-east.netrail.net] > > trace 38.8.8.2 > > Type escape sequence to abort. > Tracing the route to www.psi.net (38.8.8.2) > > 1 e0-10m.mae-east.netrail.net (192.41.177.228) [AS 3491] 8 msec 116 msec 4 mse > c > 2 S2-T1.nr-2-Arlington-VA.netrail.net (205.215.63.5) [AS 4006] 8 msec 8 msec 4 > msec > 3 E0-10M.nr-1-Arlington-VA.netrail.net (205.215.4.1) [AS 4006] 12 msec 8 msec > 8 msec > 4 border1-serial2-5.Washington.mci.net (204.70.56.29) [AS 3561] 8 msec 8 msec > 8 msec > 5 borderx1-fddi0-0.Washington.mci.net (204.70.2.4) [AS 3561] 12 msec 8 msec 12 > msec > 6 mae-east-plusplus.washington.mci.net (204.70.74.102) [AS 3561] 72 msec 8 mse > c 200 msec > 7 mae-east.psi.net (192.41.177.245) [AS 3491] 8 msec 20 msec 12 msec > 8 38.1.2.14 [AS 174] 8 msec 12 msec 12 msec > 9 www.psi.net (38.8.8.2) [AS 174] 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec > mae-netaxs# > > -------------------- to uunet through [e0-10m.mae-east.netrail.net] > > trace 199.170.0.30 > > Type escape sequence to abort. > Tracing the route to charlotte01.va.pubnix.com (199.170.0.30) > > 1 e0-10m.mae-east.netrail.net (192.41.177.228) [AS 3491] 0 msec 4 msec 8 msec > 2 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (192.41.177.249) [AS 3491] 8 msec 12 msec 8 msec > 3 Hssi1/0.GW2.FFX1.Alter.Net (137.39.100.70) [AS 701] 108 msec 40 msec 8 msec > 4 UUNET3-GW.UU.NET (137.39.12.35) [AS 701] 4 msec 4 msec 8 msec > 5 charlotte01.va.pubnix.com (199.170.0.30) [AS 701] 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec > mae-netaxs# > > -------------------- to nowhere through [e0-10m.mae-east.netrail.net] > > trace 3.4.5.6 > > Type escape sequence to abort. > Tracing the route to 3.4.5.6 > > 1 e0-10m.mae-east.netrail.net (192.41.177.228) [AS 3491] 8 msec 4 msec 8 msec > 2 S2-T1.nr-2-Arlington-VA.netrail.net (205.215.63.5) [AS 4006] 12 msec 12 msec > 8 msec > 3 S2-T1.nr-2-Arlington-VA.netrail.net (205.215.63.5) [AS 4006] !H !H !H > mae-netaxs# > > conf term > Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. > mae-netaxs(config)#no ip route 3.4.5.6 > mae-netaxs(config)#ip route 3.4.5.6 192.41.177.112 > mae-netaxs(config)#no ip route 199.170.0.30 > mae-netaxs(config)#ip route 199.170.0.30 192.41.177.112 > mae-netaxs(config)#no ip route 38.8.8.2 > mae-netaxs(config)#ip route 38.8.8.2 192.41.177.112 > mae-netaxs(config)#no ip route 192.77.167.33 > mae-netaxs(config)#ip route 192.77.167.33 192.41.177.112 > mae-netaxs(config)#no ip route 205.137.48.30 > mae-netaxs(config)#ip route 205.137.48.30 192.41.177.112 > mae-netaxs(config)#no ip route 204.117.214.13 > mae-netaxs(config)#ip route 204.117.214.13 192.41.177.112 > mae-netaxs(config)#no ip route 204.70.57.10 > mae-netaxs(config)#ip route 204.70.57.10 192.41.177.112 > mae-netaxs(config)#end > mae-netaxs# > > Avi > > > > > NO I DID NOT, Just talk to UUNet, I was peering with that at that time. > > > > > > Nathan Stratton President, CTO, NetRail,Inc. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Phone (888)NetRail NetRail, Inc. > > Fax (404)522-1939 230 Peachtree Suite 500 > > WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Atlanta, GA 30303 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > "No king is saved by the size of his army; no warrior escapes by his > > great strength. - Psalm 33:16 > > > > On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Avi Freedman wrote: > > > > > You did. > > > I saw it. > > > Others saw it. > > > > > > Avi > > > > > > > > > > > I was not, I have never pointed a default route at anyone. I was peering > > > > with UUNet at the time, I did not and never have pointed a default route > > > > at them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nathan Stratton President, CTO, NetRail,Inc. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Phone (888)NetRail NetRail, Inc. > > > > Fax (404)522-1939 230 Peachtree Suite 500 > > > > WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Atlanta, GA 30303 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > "No king is saved by the size of his army; no warrior escapes by his > > > > great strength. - Psalm 33:16 > > > > > > > > On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Avi Freedman wrote: > > > > > > > > > You were defaulting into UUNET at the time... > > > > > > > > > > Avi > > > > > > > > > > > What was netrail a default violation? > > > > > > > > > > > > Nathan Stratton President, CTO, NetRail,Inc. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > Phone (888)NetRail NetRail, Inc. > > > > > > Fax (404)522-1939 230 Peachtree Suite 500 > > > > > > WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Atlanta, GA 30303 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > "No king is saved by the size of his army; no warrior escapes by his > > > > > > great strength. - Psalm 33:16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |