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Umm.. 7505, 7507 and 7513s all use the same processors.. RSP4s do work in 7505s. rob > > Thats my point. It often ISN'T easy. For example, say you've got a > 7505 in one spot and find its getting killed. You can't put an rsp4 in > a 7505. You've got to replace the router. Anyone got any spare 7507s > or 7513s lying around? Chances are that if they do, its 2 or 3. > > Its actually going to be a bit more problematic to split the load > between two routers since that can mean notable changes in the > internal routing or the BGP tables. Not to mention calculating what > kind of traffic is going to pass BETWEEN the two routers. > > Straightforward, yes. Easy, no. > > > Why wouldn't upgrading the router's CPU or splitting the load between two > > separate routers solve the problem? Maybe that's not an overnight > > solution [unless you have spare RSPs in the POP/colo point] but it seems > > pretty straight forward to me. > > > > -Deepak. > > > > On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Wayne Bouchard wrote: > > > > > I know one of the problems that UUNET has been having (and I believe > > > several other folks as well) is high CPU usage on many of their > > > routers. (When the ping times to the router itself get high its either > > > a congested link or, usually, a router thats spinning hard..) However, > > > thats not a problem you can fix easily or fix overnight. > > > > > > > Oh God, NYC1. Look out for that ugly beast... We are unfortunate enough > > > > to have a connection off of that thing. The NOC is good, if you're up for > > > > entertainment. Let me count the times I've heard "what's traceroute" on > > > > the phone with them. Let me tell you about outages where they "forgot to > > > > take the loopback off the T" for like 6 hours. Or my favorite (once you > > > > hit a high-level brainwashed engineer) the good old "I don't see *any* > > > > packet loss, so everything is OK". "Yes, but I'm seeing ping times of > > > > 500ms to your router, and our line isn't near saturation by a long > > > > shot"... "I don't see any packet loss", etc... > > > > > > > > blech. I would not recommend them to my worst enemy. > > > > > > > > Charles > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > Charles Sprickman Internet Channel > > > > INCH System Administration Team (212)243-5200 > > > > [email protected] [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Alex Rubenstein wrote: > > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 18:18:06 -0400 > > > > > From: Alex Rubenstein <[email protected]> > > > > > To: Josh Beck <[email protected]>, [email protected] > > > > > Subject: Re: Plethora of UUnet outages and instabilities > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All I know is they suck moose nipples, and I disconnected from them last > > > > > week. They have been having problems in/around cr1.nyc1 for MONTHS now, and > > > > > they are doing nothing (that I can see) to fix it. Thier first-level > > > > > support is horrendous. One guy once said to me, "Routers have > > > > > processors?!". Another hung up when I told him to put "CUSTOMER IS IRATE" > > > > > on the trouble ticket. > > > > > > > > > > There are some GOOD guys over there, but them seem to be disappearing? (are > > > > > you there, Mr. Hannan?) > > > > > > > > > > HELLO, GENUITY (anyone who is looking for a new provider, Genuity is DAMN > > > > > good. and a DAMN good NOC. Sales guys are a little whacky, tho). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 02:12 PM 6/30/97 -0700, Josh Beck wrote: > > > > > >Has everyone else been seeing the almost daily UUnet outages recently, > > > > > >does anyone know what the true causes of these have been? > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > "Don't go with a spineless ISP; > > > > > we have more backbone." > > > > > > > > > > Alex Rubenstein -- [email protected] -- KC2BUO -- www.nac.net > > > > > net @ccess corporation, 201-983-0725 -- 201-983-0725 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Wayne Bouchard GlobalCenter > > > [email protected] > > > Primenet Network Engineering Internet Solutions for > > > (602) 416-6422 800-373-2499 x6422 Growing Businesses > > > FAX: (602) 416-9422 > > > http://www.primenet.com http://www.globalcenter.net > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Wayne Bouchard GlobalCenter > [email protected] > Primenet Network Engineering Internet Solutions for > (602) 416-6422 800-373-2499 x6422 Growing Businesses > FAX: (602) 416-9422 > http://www.primenet.com http://www.globalcenter.net > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >
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