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On Mon, Jun 09, 1997 at 02:08:51PM -0500, Larry Vaden wrote: > At 01:55 PM 6/9/97 -0500, Jeremy Porter wrote: > > > >In message <[email protected]>, Larry Vaden writes: > >>At 10:54 PM 6/8/97 -0500, Jeremy Porter wrote: > >>>This means that you should use renumbering technology as much as > >>>possible, so that when you can justify a /19 you can get one, > >>>until then, find an ISP that is multi-homes and can provide you > >>>the IP addresses you need, and consider two connections to them, > >>>giving you the benefit of being multi-homed without the cost of > >>>the routers needed for full BGP, or needing to justify a /19. > >> > >>A quick question: > >> > >>What is the immediate utilization rate required for an ISP's first /19? > >> > >>Please provide a basis in RFC2050 et al relevant documents for your answer. > > > >The /19 is required to be utilized in 6 months, as part of slow start. > >(Under Internic guidelines, under ARIN this could be changed.) > >Check out www.arin.net, www.ripe.net, and www.apnic.net for the > >indivdual registries polices. > > > >--- > >Jeremy Porter, Freeside Communications, Inc. [email protected] > >PO BOX 80315 Austin, Tx 78708 | 1-800-968-8750 | 512-458-9810 > >http://www.fc.net > > Jeremy, that's the way I read it also, but Kim Hubbard of InterNIC says an > ISP applying for their first /19 must show 100% immediate utilization of a > /19 to obtain one from InterNIC. I don't see the part of RFC2050 which > supports Kim's interpretation, especially for a currently multi-homed ISP. > Do you or others? > > Dr. Jon Postel has also been silent in regard to pointing out the authority > for the 100% immediate utilization rate. > > Thanks, > > Larry Vaden, founder and CEO help-desk 903-813-4500 > Internet Texoma, Inc. <http://www.texoma.net> direct 903-870-0365 > bringing the real Internet to rural Texomaland fax 903-868-8551 > Member ISP/C, TISPA and USIPA pager 903-867-6571 That's because under the RFCs and BCPs there isn't one. Nor, I might add, would @Home's allocation (or dozens of others) be or have been legit under such a policy. -- -- Karl Denninger ([email protected])| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1's from $600 monthly to FULL DS-3 Service | 99 Analog numbers, 77 ISDN, http://www.mcs.net/ Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| NOW Serving 56kbps DIGITAL on our analog lines! Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | 2 FULL DS-3 Internet links; 400Mbps B/W Internal
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