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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: Shutdown of lists on May 30th at 12:01 AM
While there's a lot of posturing going on right now, I have a few questions and issues that I feel are relatively substantive that i'd like to see answered or discussed. First of all, it concerns me greatly that the IAHC/iPOC process has resulted so far in more legalese regarding how apparently unbinding yet binding challenge panels regarding domain names are to be empowered than working code or protocols related to the actual implimentation of the new TLDs and their servers and registries. In an amongst the policy disputes, we seem to have entirely lost the "old" way, and this is not a good development for anyone. I would like a clear status update on implimentation from the iPOC people... I'd love to be shown to be wrong on this one, having the actual work underpublicized is bad but not nearly as serious, but I would like to know. Secondly, I am somewhat dismayed by some of the iPOC (and other) positions regarding the solidness of grounding of support for the IAHC and iPOC process and its lack of acknowledgement for the chaotic path that got us this far. Remember the numberous draft RCFs by Jon Postel, and Karl Denninger. There were a couple of times we thought we had consensus and proceeded to lose it. What we have ended up with in the MOU is far different from what we started out looking for, and in fact had come very close to agreeing to more than once. This is not to say I disagree with the MOU; the political realities of the world and the internet and their interactions have shifted, and the MOU reflects that. However, in particular regarding .WEB, it would be very wise to recall that when the origional application was made by Chris Ambler the consensus of "the rules' were far different from what it is today. Refusal of iPOC to bend and acknowledge that is unfortunate, and refusal of Chris to bend and acknowledge that the world shifted would be equally unfortunate. I suggest that in this particular case iPOC make a finding that Chris had a valid prexisting application for .WEB before the process changed, and recognize the precedence of his existing .WEB registrants. I would hope that Chris can understand that sole proprietorship of any GTLD is now deemed inapropriate (and probably rightly so), and with an iPOC finding as described above would agree to sign the MOU and become one of perhaps many .WEB registrars in the resulting framework, with the rights of his existing customers acknowledged and grandfathered in as the initial set of registered .WEB second level domains. As a side issue, those claiming that his claim on .WEB has been shot down just because a couple of hours of oral argument failed to generate a temporary restraining order should not be so confident; it's not at all rare for better prepared further testimony to change the trial outcome from what a TRO or injunction hearing ruled. As a final note, to those advocating the "alternative constellations" of root servers, I offer the following observation: You are completely useless unless your roots are a coordinated superset of the IANA-blessed roots, don't contradict one another, and meet the reliability specifications we've discussed to death over the last 18 months or so. Right now, none of those three is true overall and it appears that for many of the alternate groups none of them are true. If you cannot all get together and make them all true, for at least some significant subset of the "confederations", stop trying to play and go home. The objective factors involved do not change with political arguments among you: if you cannot meet them then you are wasting your time trying. -george william herbert [email protected] Speaking only for myself - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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