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Re: What's going on?
At 08:30 PM 4/17/97 -0700, Sanjay Dani wrote: > >>I certainly don't condone any attacks on AGIS but I think this should be a >>lesson that Internet users expect a certain standard of behavior from >>network providers. While there may be no legal imperative to force network >>providers to ehave in a certain way, the will of the people has a way of >>making itself felt and we ignore it at our peril. > > (Internet users != hackers) > >I understand the will of the people to boycot a certain >company or a product, but breaking into others' property? >Sophistry like above deserves some of the blame for the >break-ins. > Why doesn't everyone who has a problem with it. Take _REAL_ action. Like, oh say.. terminate peering with AGIS 's network? Or ban the routes emanating from their mail servers. Just pull the MX records, or find out their mail-server addresses and ban them. Better yet, if you are going to boycott, terminate peering all together and ban connectivity to/from their network via any carrier to yours. I don't overtly have a problem with email-spammers, it is annoying, yes but most also terminate sending you stuff if you ask nicely and not fly-off-the-handle at them or flame them publicly. All I am saying, is if you want to achieve anything, don't do anything illegal like hacking, or reverse spamming their mail-servers. Just BOYCOTT the network. Terminate all traffic to/from them to yours and petition people to follow suit. If you are THAT upset, take REAL action. Again, I don't have any problems with AGIS, spammers, etc. If you are going after email spammers, go after news spammers, people who register 10,000 domains to resell them, NSPs who falsely register for large address blocks and don't use them, or use them inefficiently, go after people who will not CIDR their announcements. There are SO many areas of broadband abuse that affect all of the Internet, I don't see the point in focusing in on one tiny aspect of it. My opinions are my own, not my company's. All I am saying, is you want a boycott. BOYCOTT don't screw around and do illegal things, that makes you as bad as them in my opinion. Matt Pearson Redirect all flames to /dev/null ------------------------------------------------- Matthew E. Pearson Vice President of Development Games-Online Inc. http://www.games-online.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -