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Hmm, let's make your questions more complex - if I own ISP and this ISP bacame bankrupt, wpuld it's address space be - selled, returned, owned by it's customers, etc... ??? On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, Tom Glover wrote: > > I "kind" of agree. :) If I own a company, lets call it Acme, which has an > internet connection and that company is making use of a class B address > space it got from the 'NIC and if I sell Acme does that address block need > to be returned? Another example is if I own an ISP that has several > blocks of address space. What happens if I sell the ISP? Do the address > blocks get returned? If Acme has to return their address blocks upon the > sale of the company and the ISP doesn't on its sale, we've got a situation > which would keep lawyers in Lexus for decades. If the answer is that you > can legitimately transfer an address block if you sell the company then > there's a nice big loophole. Anyone with a class B for sale could simply > form a company and then sell it. > > Now I don't own a sellable address block. I'm just playing devil's > advocate in what appears to be a very interesting quandary. > > On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, Brett L. Hawn wrote: > > > On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, David R. Conrad wrote: > > > > > > The way I see it, it is worth no more than $10,000. As that is what > > > >ARIN is going to charge any corp to get a Class B. > > > > > > How much is your time (spent making up and writing the justification for > > > a class B) worth? > > > > I think you miss my point, since the ARIN is for all intents and purposes > > selling address space, who are they to say no? Apparently someone made a > > case for a class B at one time or another, no longer needs it (for whatever > > reason) and wants to pass it on to someone else and make a little profit in > > at the same time. Now granted, I don't neccessarily agree with what they're > > doing, but I certainly can't say anything 'wrong' about it either. I mean, > > lets think about this for a second. > > > > Say I 'own' the fictional block 223.101.0.0, its swipped to me, everything > > is in order as it should be. I decide for whatever reason to turn off my > > routers, sell my equipment and move to the Caymans to enjoy the rest of my > > life. I now have two choices, 1: Return my block to ARIN, or 2: Sell my > > block to someone else and make a small (or large for that matter, I'm sure I > > could sell it for a interesting sum of money) profit. > > > > scenario 1: > > > > It gets returned and some other poor fool has to jump through flaming hoops > > and surive a pool of toxic waste to get a few IPs. > > > > scenario 2: > > > > I change all the records to point to them, swip it out to them, basically do > > everything needed to make them the legitimate 'owners' of that block, they > > pay me a nice lump of cash and we're both happy. > > > > As I see it, changing ownership of IPs is no different than changing > > ownership of a domain. > > > > > > [-] Brett L. Hawn (blh @ nol dot net) [-] > > [-] Networks On-Line - Houston, Texas [-] > > [-] 713-467-7100 [-] > > > > -- > Regards, > Tom > ________________________________________________________________________ > | "The Egg Domain" | "And all you touch and all you see, | > | [email protected] | is all your life will ever be." | > | http://www.egg.com/ | (Pink Floyd) | > > > Aleksei Roudnev, Network Operations Center, Relcom, Moscow (+7 095) 194-19-95 (Network Operations Center Hot Line),(+7 095) 239-10-10, N 13729 (pager) (+7 095) 196-72-12 (Support), (+7 095) 194-33-28 (Fax) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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